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[99.13.41.4]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id x125-v6sm1414372ywa.45.2018.07.20.17.39.33 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Fri, 20 Jul 2018 17:39:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Chuck Hallenbeck X-Google-Original-From: Chuck Hallenbeck Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2018 20:39:10 -0400 (EDT) X-X-Sender: archie@workshop Reply-To: Chuck Hallenbeck To: Dominique Martinet cc: Chuck Hallenbeck , Karl Dahlke , edbrowse-dev@lists.the-brannons.com Subject: Re: [edbrowse-dev] fastmail In-Reply-To: <20180720234438.GA1417@nautica> Message-ID: References: <20180619175210.erwb19@free.fr> <20180620104806.eklhad@comcast.net> <20180720234438.GA1417@nautica> User-Agent: Alpine 2.21.99 (LNX 239 2017-12-04) X-BeenThere: edbrowse-dev@edbrowse.org List-Id: Edbrowse Development List MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Hi Dominique, > Chuck Hallenbeck wrote on Fri, Jul 20, 2018: >> My daughter with her Windows laptop created an account for me on >> fastmail.com successfully. The kapcha took a form I have never seen >> before. Instead of an image to copy to an input field, it took the >> form of a series of statements to click on, each of them reading: >> >> I am not a robot > > These are google reCAPTCHA, most people only see this box... As an > annoying user I get various image challenges (for example displays a > grid of images and pick the ones with cars, street signs, store fronts > etc) Amazing. I had no idea. > There also are audio challenges which aren't easy either, it's a track > full of white noise and someone speaking difficult words with a strong > accent -- I just tried two and I can't say I understood what they said, Me too. I often fail to hear them correctly. > so maybe I'm a robot? I doubt it. Robots are not that helpful. >> On my linux desktop, I entered: >> >> edbrowse www.fastmail.net That's a typo. I entered www.fastmail.com, actually. >> and got their opening page again. Selecting the Log In link this >> time instead of the Sign Up link, I got to a page that said "3 lines >> were replaced by line 1" and the page before me was one line long, >> with no printable characters on that line. > > The 3 lines before that one empty line are: > Sorry, your browser does not support the technologies needed to use our web interface. > Please make sure you have the latest version, and that JavaScript is enabled. > {Learn more about our browser requirements}. There was a time not too many years ago when messages like the above were much more blunt, often ending with "It really sucks being you!" > I think there is no such thing as app-specific requirement. They say it > works with thunderbird and there is no magic there, so > mutt/alpine/edbrowse should work if we can get to the app password - > it's just a password specific to imap/smtp that they call that way to > differenciate it with the web interface password. interesting. > I'll admit I didn't try though, I stopped when they started asking for > my phone number and my curiosity stops when I have to give personal > information to these companies, but if you're willing to try maybe you > can ask your daughter to generate that password for you as well. I > believe that once it's setup it should work for classic imap/smtp and > shouldn't change That might be worth a try. I appreciate your attention, and suggestions. Thanks. Chuck -- Here too, In Northeast Ohio, The Moon is Waxing Gibbous (62% of Full) If you don't stand for something, you will fall for anything. Sent from Matt's missing iPhone.