Re: [Edbrowse-dev] startwindow / class NodeList

[Kevin Carhart <kevin@carhart.net>]

Hi Adam and Karl,

Thanks for writing, I take your points about where to do what.

I see the points about the back and forth, can we, can't we.  I'm not 
married to writing javascript so maybe I could help build out some 
pieces of DOM in C when the time comes.  I remember the tidy5 thread and I 
agree that this will be huge, because doesn't this mean you will have an 
easier time from now on, doing the types of translations that jSyncup 
does?  So tidy5 is a big deal!  Maybe I should wait a while and see how 
the landscape for how to work changes with the parser?

> Even if startwindow.js is temporary, it sure has brought us a lot of
> functionality for not a lot of code,
> to help us see the path ahead, maybe like a prototype.

I know what you mean.  In order to get over the chicken and egg problem of 
not knowing anything and not knowing how to find out, I did something like 
this and compiled a very marked-up edbrowse as a dynamic harness for 
loading a web page over and over and playing along with what 
happens.  What I've observed is that then it raises a question around 
generality and specificity: so I'm knee-deep in the real world, weird code 
of a live website (like amazon, or yellowpages or yelp), how do I know if 
the situations I'm seeing will come up enough generally for the effort to 
have been worth it?  Or does this uncertainty mean that the 
reverse-engineering technique is extraneous?  Anyway, I did some of this.. 
it's like Karl has written from time to time - you also reverse particular 
pages because you are trying to get that page working for yourself in the 
short term.

> I think we all have a lot of other stuff going on in life,
> which has slowed us down a bit of late.
I understand.. I have set it down for long periods.  I picked edbrowse 
back up about a month ago and have been a bit addicted since then.

thanks
Kevin

PS As a short aside, Karl, you have periodically said, I don't foresee 
anyone writing journal articles about us.  I wonder if someone like Norton 
or McAfee would show some interest.  Have you considered trying to 
interest the anti-malware world in edbrowse as a safe quarantine or 
forensic environment for a page containing bad javascript?




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