From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received-SPF: None (mailfrom) identity=mailfrom; client-ip=8.23.224.60; helo=out.smtp-auth.no-ip.com; envelope-from=kevin@carhart.net; receiver= Received: from out.smtp-auth.no-ip.com (smtp-auth.no-ip.com [8.23.224.60]) by hurricane.the-brannons.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4CE0477A9A for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2018 00:29:16 -0800 (PST) X-No-IP: carhart.net@noip-smtp X-Report-Spam-To: abuse@no-ip.com Received: from carhart.net (unknown [99.52.200.227]) (Authenticated sender: carhart.net@noip-smtp) by smtp-auth.no-ip.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 0B8BA2CB for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2018 00:30:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from carhart.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by carhart.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id w1I8UAFK027258 for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2018 00:30:11 -0800 Received: from localhost (kevin@localhost) by carhart.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id w1I8UA6M027237 for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2018 00:30:10 -0800 Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2018 00:30:10 -0800 (PST) From: Kevin Carhart To: Edbrowse-dev@lists.the-brannons.com In-Reply-To: <20180118024338.eklhad@comcast.net> Message-ID: References: <20180115065635.eklhad@comcast.net> <20180118024338.eklhad@comcast.net> User-Agent: Alpine 2.03 (LRH 1266 2009-07-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: Re: [Edbrowse-dev] version X-BeenThere: edbrowse-dev@lists.the-brannons.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: Edbrowse Development List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2018 08:29:16 -0000 > I don't know, it may be more complicated than that. > These are usually more than just browse. True. It does not solve the complex scenarios where you want to use a website to do things, but I think it could be "necessary but not sufficient" some of the time, since a JS crash can inhibit dynamic behavior from working right. Doing real ecommerce, or online banking, a lot of the time is going to be related to document.forms, submitting and maintaining state, right? I've tried some of this. It works some of the time and doesn't work some of the time. And, although this could have many causes, I think one major problem is when a submission button isn't recognized, so you can't i*. Anyway, I wanted to scratch an itch.. an interesting couple hours' research. It is definitely not the whole story when we want to use the applications on sites and use them for what they're for. Kevin