From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received-SPF: None (mailfrom) identity=mailfrom; client-ip=8.23.224.60; helo=out.smtp-auth.no-ip.com; envelope-from=kevin@carhart.net; receiver= Received: from out.smtp-auth.no-ip.com (smtp-auth.no-ip.com [8.23.224.60]) by hurricane.the-brannons.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 227D577AAF for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2018 23:41:43 -0700 (PDT) X-No-IP: carhart.net@noip-smtp X-Report-Spam-To: abuse@no-ip.com Received: from carhart.net (unknown [99.52.200.227]) (Authenticated sender: carhart.net@noip-smtp) by smtp-auth.no-ip.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id E3A2B1AB for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2018 23:43:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from carhart.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by carhart.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id w2I6hRk8025993 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2018 23:43:27 -0700 Received: from localhost (kevin@localhost) by carhart.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id w2I6hQ5i025966 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2018 23:43:27 -0700 Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2018 23:43:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Kevin Carhart To: Edbrowse-dev@lists.the-brannons.com In-Reply-To: <20180216112600.eklhad@comcast.net> Message-ID: References: <20180216112600.eklhad@comcast.net> User-Agent: Alpine 2.03 (LRH 1266 2009-07-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: Re: [Edbrowse-dev] NASA is so weird we may never understand it X-BeenThere: edbrowse-dev@lists.the-brannons.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: Edbrowse Development List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2018 06:41:45 -0000 > Such an alert is placed before each var, since those are the only syntactically safe places to do so. > I couldn't find any other place that is safe. > So only about 9% of lines havve markers, but it's something. Interesting, good stuff. About "syntactically safe", weren't you saying that anything could be put anywhere, if you use || and commas rather than semicolons in order to inject logging, etc? I am interested to know how come this is different? About nasa, I think to some extent the components are downloadable on their own, so we could test them in a vacuum if we want to do that. I've done it a little with a jquery using a tiny test.html like some text I just point edbrowse at test.html and find out what happens in a vacuum before trying it in combination. It might also be possible with ember, which has a site at emberjs.com. The other majors that I know of are bootstrap, mootools (used by fastmail), possibly rails which I think the xqsuperschools website uses. There are some, but not that many. jquery has some other projects like Sizzle which is CSS-related, and jqueryUI which people appear to be including quite a bit. It's a little helpful up to a point to know this. The insane overloading is still a problem, but there are fewer of these large popular frameworks than we may think so it will go far when we do get one. thank you for the research, I am sure a lot of blood sweat and tears went in to going that deep into vendor.js. Kevin