Discussion of Homotopy Type Theory and Univalent Foundations
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From: Thomas Streicher <streicher@mathematik.tu-darmstadt.de>
To: Michael Shulman <shulman@sandiego.edu>
Cc: "HomotopyTypeTheory@googlegroups.com"
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Subject: Re: [HoTT] regular and strong-limit universes
Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2019 11:44:06 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190323104406.GA10592@mathematik.tu-darmstadt.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAOvivQzzf-W1JNOagS6YS3dqe4YrRZwSpaeNLhr7wUAz4Ro5Wg@mail.gmail.com>

In set theory there are the Zermelo universes, namely the V_\lambda
for limit ordinals \lambda > \omega. They have nice closure properties
in particular closure under exponentiation but what they are lacking
are closure under replacement, i.e. for all A in U and f : A -> U the
image of f is in U. Type theoretically this corresponds to the
possibility of defining families in U by recursion over some A \in U.

On the other hand in realizability models modest sets from a universe U
with excellent closure properties, in particular for every A \in U and
B : A -> U its sum \Sigma(A,B) \in U again.

So it's very model dependent whether there exist small universes with
excellent closure properties. But of course Prop or Omega is not part
of such a universe.

Thomas

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2019-03-22 13:02 Michael Shulman
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