From: Nicolai Kraus <nicola...@gmail.com>
To: "Martín Hötzel Escardó" <"escardo..."@gmail.com>,
"Homotopy Type Theory" <"HomotopyT..."@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: [HoTT] Univalence <-> equivalence induction
Date: Sat, 19 May 2018 19:09:15 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <29ef9804-139a-6eb9-241c-b75c02a14094@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4f23688f-af7c-43cb-946c-988f9d476848@googlegroups.com>
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Interesting! At least I had not been aware of it. I think there's
another very short way to see that "equivalence induction without
computation rule" implies univalence. Recall the
Capriotti/Licata/Orton-Pitts observation which says that ua + ua-beta
(i.e. a function A~B -> A=B which is a section of A=B -> A~B) imply full
univalence; see arXiv:1712.04890, 4.6.
By distributivity of Pi and Sigma, we can write the type of pairs
(ua,ua-beta) as a type family P indexed over equivalences: for types A,B
and an equivalence e: A~B, we define P(A,B,e) := Sigma (p:A=B).
id2equiv(p)=e. To inhabit P, we apply equivalence induction.
It seems there are many such "coherification"-constructions in HoTT.
-- Nicolai
On 18/05/18 07:36, Martín Hötzel Escardó wrote:
> Equivalence induction says that in order to prove something for all
> equivalences, it is enough to prove it for all identity equivalences
> for all types.
>
> This follows from univalence. But also, conversely, univalence follows
> from it:
>
> http://www.cs.bham.ac.uk/~mhe/agda-new/UF-Univalence.html#JEq
>
> Is this known? Some years ago it was claimed in this list that
> equivalence induction would be strictly weaker than univalence.
>
> To prove the above, I apply a technique I learned from Peter
> Lumsdaine, that given an abstract identity system (Id, refl , J) with
> no given "computation rule" for J, produces another identity system
> (Id, refl , J' , J'-comp) with
> a "propositional computation rule" J'-comp for J'.
>
> http://www.cs.bham.ac.uk/~mhe/agda-new/Lumsdaine.html
>
> Martin
>
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Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-05-18 6:36 Martín Hötzel Escardó
2018-05-18 13:04 ` [HoTT] " Egbert Rijke
2018-05-18 15:40 ` Michael Shulman
2018-05-18 21:03 ` Martín Hötzel Escardó
2018-05-19 18:09 ` Nicolai Kraus [this message]
2018-05-19 19:38 ` Thierry Coquand
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