Discussion of Homotopy Type Theory and Univalent Foundations
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From: Dimitris Tsementzis <dtse...@princeton.edu>
To: Vladimir Voevodsky <vlad...@ias.edu>
Cc: Andrew Polonsky <andrew....@gmail.com>,
	Homotopy Type Theory <HomotopyT...@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: [HoTT] Different notions of equality; terminology
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2016 17:16:53 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <50986516-CF33-48F9-8EEB-9D10BDCFBD29@princeton.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <A6563942-EE9F-4CA1-8F68-27DC428824B1@ias.edu>

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I think this is terminological. I understood Polonsky (and correct me if I’m wrong) as saying that something like the “exact equality” of HTS is a “substitutive equality” that exists at the object (or what he is calling “logical”) level and can therefore be reasoned about. (It is of course distinct from the judgmental equality of HTS which lies in the background.) 

So is the so-called exact equality of HTS an example of a “substitutive equality” for you? Or do you still call that “transportational” and reserve the name “substitutive” for meta-level equalities that can only be checked? (This is a terminological question.)

Dimitris

> On Jul 18, 2016, at 17:05, Vladimir Voevodsky <vlad...@ias.edu> wrote:
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>> On Jul 18, 2016, at 10:45 PM, Andrew Polonsky <andrew....@gmail.com <mailto:andrew....@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Finally, Voevodsky currently distinguishes between "substitutive" and "transportational" equalities.  But in his system, both concepts are of the "logical" kind.  The effect is therefore to promote "strict" equality to the logical level; so one can reason about it in the object logic, while retaining other properties like the conversion rule.
> 
> I am not sure what you mean by this.  In fact, I emphasized that the only substitutional equality in MLTTs is the definitional equality that can not be postulated or proved, only checked. 
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> Vladimir.
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Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-07-18 20:45 Andrew Polonsky
2016-07-18 21:03 ` [HoTT] " Andrej Bauer
2016-07-18 21:05 ` Vladimir Voevodsky
2016-07-18 21:13   ` Andrew Polonsky
     [not found]     ` <2506A3A8-8AC0-4B49-AD1E-D660A7A15245@ias.edu>
     [not found]       ` <CABcT7WDYqUY=efCTvdRpdW98aDSXpjfHGo9pJz2jBNa3yNXCgQ@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]         ` <085E4ACF-BD06-484F-ACA3-17DD6249CF76@ias.edu>
     [not found]           ` <CABcT7WBKxFhcvuBP66wOcUzU1uPNUqPqXoSYW4aCJv4c8U7iuQ@mail.gmail.com>
2016-07-18 21:45             ` Vladimir Voevodsky
2016-07-18 21:16   ` Dimitris Tsementzis [this message]
2016-07-18 21:17 ` Jon Sterling
2016-07-18 21:24   ` Andrew Polonsky
     [not found] ` <CAOvivQyZzdyhFFPfqkH4W+Z--78t0LEVWtthLhCpDxUkJNUrMQ@mail.gmail.com>
2016-07-18 22:20   ` Andrew Polonsky
2016-07-18 22:24     ` Jon Sterling
     [not found]     ` <CAOvivQy44FvN_bVD+nby8t0BnnTYf38dR5=s31_Yv_VsDOzLCA@mail.gmail.com>
2016-07-18 22:43       ` Andrew Polonsky
     [not found]         ` <CAOvivQw15pOvi9wzWFpB2WcwmgxB=uw-826xNmxUck57VagEQA@mail.gmail.com>
2016-07-18 23:01           ` Andrew Polonsky
2016-07-19 12:53             ` Michael Shulman
2016-07-19 16:49               ` Jon Sterling
2016-07-19 19:07                 ` Egbert Rijke
2016-07-20  2:45                 ` Dan Licata
2016-07-19 23:19 ` Martin Hotzel Escardo

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