Discussion of Homotopy Type Theory and Univalent Foundations
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From: "Martín Hötzel Escardó" <escardo.martin@gmail.com>
To: Homotopy Type Theory <HomotopyTypeTheory@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: [HoTT] Why did Voevodsky find existing proof assistants to be 'impractical'?
Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2019 12:40:48 -0800 (PST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <77829d67-ed64-43eb-aaf0-d673df419080@googlegroups.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAH52Xb3ynUB2gTYnnmtijsYFcwpNK84aTxLT0kwd5syASy31Aw@mail.gmail.com>


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On Tuesday, 26 November 2019 19:53:19 UTC, Kevin Buzzard wrote:
>
> What I meant by my earlier post was that the `=` I have run into in Lean's 
> type theory is too weak (canonically isomorphic things can't be proved to 
> be equal) but the one I have run into in HoTT seems too strong 
> (non-canonically isomorphic things are equal).
>

Given a *specific* isomorphism, in HoTT you get  a *specific* element of 
the identity type. 

Let me say this explicitly: equality in HoTT is not truth-valued. It 
collects all the possible ways to identify things. In the case of equality 
of types, the identity type collects the equivalences between them (rather 
than being the truth value expressing whether they are equivalent).

In fact, canonicity is at the heart of the univalence axiom: there is a 
canonical one-to-one correspondence between elements of the equality type 
(i.e. the identity type) and elements of the types of equivalences.

So, the univalence axiom just says that the elements of the good, old 
identity type can be understood to be precisely the equivalences. 

You may wonder what the bonus of this is. This is the content of my last 
two bullet points in my message.

Martin


 

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  reply	other threads:[~2019-11-26 20:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-10-27 14:41 Nicolas Alexander Schmidt
2019-10-27 17:22 ` Bas Spitters
2019-11-03 11:38   ` Bas Spitters
2019-11-03 11:52     ` David Roberts
2019-11-03 19:13       ` Michael Shulman
2019-11-03 19:45         ` Valery Isaev
2019-11-03 22:23           ` Martín Hötzel Escardó
2019-11-04 23:20             ` Nicolas Alexander Schmidt
2019-11-24 18:11               ` Kevin Buzzard
2019-11-26  0:25                 ` Michael Shulman
2019-11-26  8:08                   ` Ulrik Buchholtz
2019-11-26 19:14                   ` Martín Hötzel Escardó
2019-11-26 19:53                     ` Kevin Buzzard
2019-11-26 20:40                       ` Martín Hötzel Escardó [this message]
2019-11-26 22:18                       ` Michael Shulman
2019-11-27  0:16                         ` Joyal, André
2019-11-27  2:28                           ` Stefan Monnier
2019-11-27  1:41                         ` Daniel R. Grayson
2019-11-27  8:22                         ` N. Raghavendra
2019-11-27 10:12                     ` Thorsten Altenkirch
2019-11-27 16:37                       ` Michael Shulman
2019-11-27 20:21                 ` Nicolas Alexander Schmidt
2019-11-04 18:42         ` Kevin Buzzard
2019-11-04 21:10           ` Michael Shulman
2019-11-04 23:26           ` David Roberts
2019-11-05 15:43           ` Daniel R. Grayson
2019-11-05 20:29             ` Yuhao Huang
2019-11-06 23:59               ` Daniel R. Grayson
2019-11-05 23:14           ` Martín Hötzel Escardó
2019-11-06  0:06             ` Stefan Monnier
2019-11-11 18:26               ` Licata, Dan
2019-11-03  7:29 ` Michael Shulman

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