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From: Dan Christensen <jdc@uwo.ca>
To: "homotopytypetheory@googlegroups.com"
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Subject: Re: [HoTT] Free higher groups
Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2023 17:37:35 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87zg6qy4gx.fsf@uwo.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CADYavpxy1Qh97+PZ1=DaaKFH3RXo9wTwDhqbcoUFw5ZDP4oUrQ@mail.gmail.com>	(Michael Shulman's message of "Fri, 28 Apr 2023 10:59:48 -0700")

Another set-level statement is whether there are enough injective
abelian groups.  It's true in Grothendieck oo-toposes, but presumably is
not provable in HoTT.

Dan

On Apr 28, 2023, Michael Shulman <shulman@sandiego.edu> wrote:

> The existence of hypercompletion is a good suggestion.
>
> Also I realized there are set-level statements that are already known to be
> true in all Grothendieck 1-toposes but not all elementary 1-toposes, such as
> WISC and Freyd's theorem that a small complete category is a preorder.  So
> those will be true in any Grothendieck oo-topos too, and can be presumed to
> fail in HoTT.  But it's nice to have one that involves higher types too.
>
> On Mon, Apr 24, 2023 at 5:37 PM Dan Christensen <jdc@uwo.ca> wrote:
>
>  A not-so-interesting answer to Mike's question is the type of deloopings
>  of S^3.  The reason this isn't so interesting is that it's in the image
>  of the natural functor from Spaces to any oo-topos, so it's true just
>  because it is true for Spaces.  Similarly, a statement asserting that
>  pi_42(S^17) = (insert what it is) is true in any oo-topos.  Another
>  reason these aren't interesting is that I expect that they are provable
>  in HoTT with enough work.
>
>  So, I'll second Mike's question, with the extra condition that it would
>  be good to have a type for which there is some reason to doubt that it
>  is provably inhabited in HoTT.
>
>  Oh, what about whether the hypercomplete objects are the modal
>  objects
>  for a modality?  I'm throwing this out there without much thought...
>
>  Dan
>
>  On Apr 24, 2023, Michael Shulman <shulman@sandiego.edu> wrote:
>
>  > This is fantastic, especially the simplicity of the construction.  As
>  > Peter said, a wonderful way to commemorate the 10th anniversary of
>  the
>  > special year and the release of the HoTT Book.
>  >
>  > Relatedly to Nicolai's question, this question also has an easy proof
>  > in any Grothendieck infinity-topos.  Now that we know it also has a
>  > proof in HoTT, do we know of any type in HoTT whose interpretation in
>  > any Grothendieck infinity-topos is known to be inhabited, but which
>  > isn't known to be inhabited in HoTT?
>  >
>  > On Fri, Apr 21, 2023 at 5:25 PM Nicolai Kraus
>  > <nicolai.kraus@gmail.com> wrote:
>  >
>  >     Hi David,
>  >
>  >     Congratulations (again)! I find it very interesting that this
>  >     question has a positive answer. I had suspected that it might
>  >     separate HoTT from Voevodsky's HTS (aka 2LTT with a fibrancy
>  >     assumption on strict Nat). Since this isn't the case, do we know
>  >     of another type in HoTT that is inhabited in HTS, while we don't
>  >     know whether we can construct an inhabitant in HoTT?
>  >
>  >     Best,
>  >     Nicolai
>  >
>  >     On Fri, Apr 21, 2023 at 8:30 PM Jon Sterling
>  >     <jon@jonmsterling.com> wrote:
>  >
>  >         Dear David,
>  >
>  >         Congratulations on your beautiful result; I'm looking forward
>  >         to understanding the details. Recently I had been wondering if
>  >         anyone had proved this, and I am delighted to see that it is
>  >         now done.
>  >
>  >         Best wishes,
>  >         Jon
>  >
>  >         On 21 Apr 2023, at 12:04, David Wärn wrote:
>  >
>  >         > Dear all,
>  >         >
>  >         > I'm happy to announce a solution to one of the oldest open
>  >         problems in synthetic homotopy theory: the free higher group
>  >         on a set is a set.
>  >         >
>  >         > The proof proceeds by describing path types of pushouts as
>  >         sequential colimits of pushouts, much like the James
>  >         construction. This description should be useful also in many
>  >         other applications. For example it gives a straightforward
>  >         proof of Blakers-Massey.
>  >         >
>  >         > Best wishes,
>  >         > David
>  >         >
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Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <AQHZesxzxECCXAdlIUadD6wxcH+RXA==>
2023-04-21 10:04 ` David Wärn
2023-04-21 11:28   ` [HoTT] " Ulrik Buchholtz
2023-04-21 14:32   ` [HoTT] " Peter LeFanu Lumsdaine
2023-04-21 18:30   ` Jon Sterling
2023-04-22  0:24     ` Nicolai Kraus
2023-04-25  0:02       ` Michael Shulman
2023-04-25  0:37         ` Dan Christensen
2023-04-28 17:59           ` Michael Shulman
2023-04-29 17:37             ` Dan Christensen [this message]
2023-04-29 18:37               ` Steve Awodey
2023-04-29 18:49                 ` Ulrik Buchholtz
2023-04-29 19:22                   ` Steve Awodey
2023-04-30  0:43                     ` Michael Shulman
2023-04-29 18:57                 ` Dan Christensen
2023-04-29 19:06                   ` Jasper Hugunin
2023-05-02  8:35                     ` 'Thorsten Altenkirch' via Homotopy Type Theory
2023-05-02  8:48                       ` 'Thorsten Altenkirch' via Homotopy Type Theory

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