From: Martin Escardo <escardo...@googlemail.com>
To: Vladimir Voevodsky <vlad...@ias.edu>,
Peter LeFanu Lumsdaine <p.l.lu...@gmail.com>
Cc: "Joyal, André" <"joyal..."@uqam.ca>,
"HomotopyT...@googlegroups.com" <"HomotopyT..."@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: [HoTT] Re: Joyal's version of the notion of equivalence
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2016 00:55:54 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <99874c3d-46e7-cf41-e58e-63183ae10d74@googlemail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CBA53C75-423D-4E98-9C59-BE98166A8FB4@ias.edu>
On 12/10/16 23:17, Vladimir Voevodsky wrote:
> I think the clearest formulation is my original one - as the condition
> of contractibility of the h-fibers.
>
> This is also the first form in which it was introduced and the first
> explicit formulation and proof of the fact that it is a proposition.
Vladimir, I agree with what you say above.
I was just trying to understand a particular, interesting case of a
situation where we have types P(f) and Q(f) that are not hpropositions
in general, but such that the product type P(f)xQ(f) is always an
hproposition, as explained in my previous messages.
I hoped to get a motivation from homotopy theory, and Andre tried to
explain this to me.
I do find it rather interesting that the cartesian product of two such
types that are not in general hpropositions is always an hproposition.
A function can have a section in zillions of ways, and also have
retraction in just as many ways, and we know in set theory that a
function can have both a section and a retraction in at most one way.
This is not surprising. But it does surprise me, for the moment, that
this is the case in univalent mathematics too, given that we do know
that the type of two-sided inverses is in general *not* an hproposition.
Best,
Martin
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-10-12 23:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <963893a3-bfdf-d9bd-8961-19bab69e0f7c@googlemail.com>
2016-10-07 23:51 ` Martin Escardo
2016-10-08 0:21 ` [HoTT] " Martin Escardo
2016-10-08 17:34 ` Joyal, André
2016-10-09 18:31 ` Martin Escardo
2016-10-09 18:56 ` Joyal, André
2016-10-11 22:54 ` Martin Escardo
2016-10-12 9:45 ` Peter LeFanu Lumsdaine
2016-10-12 13:21 ` Dan Christensen
2016-10-12 22:45 ` [HoTT] " Martin Escardo
2016-10-12 22:17 ` Vladimir Voevodsky
2016-10-12 23:55 ` Martin Escardo [this message]
2016-10-13 10:14 ` Thomas Streicher
2016-10-13 7:14 ` Joyal, André
2016-10-13 12:48 ` Egbert Rijke
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