Discussion of Homotopy Type Theory and Univalent Foundations
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From: Vladimir Voevodsky <vlad...@ias.edu>
To: Martin Escardo <escardo...@googlemail.com>
Cc: "Prof. Vladimir Voevodsky" <vlad...@ias.edu>,
	Jon Sterling <j...@jonmsterling.com>,
	HomotopyT...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [HoTT] Conjecture
Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2017 08:40:37 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9A3B1ACD-63F0-4115-BEDB-EF1B0ECD25D2@ias.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <28122de4-b334-8c92-5281-81da31ecb50b@googlemail.com>

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I looks like like you would also need the resizing rule to place hProp into a lower universe. Is it so?

Vladimir.

> On Apr 6, 2017, at 1:55 AM, 'Martin Escardo' via Homotopy Type Theory <HomotopyT...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> On 06/04/17 01:23, Jon Sterling wrote:
>> I am curious, does this development use univalence except to establish
>> functional extensionality and propositional extensionality? The reason I
>> ask is, I wonder if it is possible to do a similar development of
>> computability theory in extensional type theory and get analogous
>> results. Additionally, I am curious whether you have found cases in
>> which univalence clarifies or sharpens this development, since I'm
>> trying to keep track of interesting use-cases of univalence.
> 
> Currently the only place that uses univalence is the equivalence of
> (X->Y) with the type of single-valued relations X->Y->U.  (This was
> proved by Egbert in his mater thesis.)
> 
> But another point, compared with previous developments in topos logic
> an extensional type theory, is that a number of things work as they
> should for types more general than sets by replacing
> subobject-classifier-valued functions by universe-valued functions.
> 
> An example is this: Consider the lifing in its representation with
> subsingletons
> 
>  L(X) = (Sigma(A:X->U), isProp(Sigma(x:X), A(x))).
> 
> If we replaced U by Prop in this definition, this wouldn't work well
> for types that are not sets.
> 
> For example, if X is the circle, any function into a set, and hence
> any function into Prop, is constant, and so L(X) would be
> contractible.
> 
> However, with the definition as it is, with U, we always have that X
> is embedded into L(X), even if X is not a set.
> 
> The same phenomenon applies to the equivalence of (X->Y) with the type
> of single-valued relations X->Y->U discussed above, but this
> additionally requires univalence.
> 
> Martin
> 
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  reply	other threads:[~2017-04-06 12:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-03-27 21:57 Conjecture Martin Escardo
2017-03-29 21:08 ` [HoTT] Conjecture Nicolai Kraus
2017-03-29 22:05   ` Martin Escardo
2017-03-30 10:59     ` Michael Shulman
2017-03-30 19:22       ` Egbert Rijke
2017-03-30 23:02         ` Nicolai Kraus
2017-03-30 22:49     ` Nicolai Kraus
2017-03-31 16:09       ` Martin Escardo
2017-04-05 19:37         ` Martin Escardo
2017-04-06  0:23           ` Jon Sterling
2017-04-06  5:55             ` Martin Escardo
2017-04-06 12:40               ` Vladimir Voevodsky [this message]
2017-04-06 13:50                 ` Martin Escardo
     [not found]                   ` <81c0782f-9287-4111-a4f1-01cb9c87c7e8@cs.bham.ac.uk>
2017-04-06 16:09                     ` Martin Escardo
2017-04-06 11:52             ` Thomas Streicher
2017-04-07  9:49               ` Martin Escardo
2017-04-07 17:11                 ` Michael Shulman
2017-04-07 18:10                   ` Martin Escardo
2017-04-03  0:35 ` Conjecture Daniel R. Grayson
2017-04-03  2:20   ` [HoTT] Conjecture Favonia
2017-04-03  9:56   ` Nicolai Kraus
2017-04-03 11:50     ` Daniel R. Grayson

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