From: Vladimir Voevodsky <vlad...@ias.edu>
To: Martin Escardo <escardo...@googlemail.com>
Cc: "Prof. Vladimir Voevodsky" <vlad...@ias.edu>,
Jon Sterling <j...@jonmsterling.com>,
HomotopyT...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [HoTT] Conjecture
Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2017 08:40:37 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <9A3B1ACD-63F0-4115-BEDB-EF1B0ECD25D2@ias.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <28122de4-b334-8c92-5281-81da31ecb50b@googlemail.com>
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I looks like like you would also need the resizing rule to place hProp into a lower universe. Is it so?
Vladimir.
> On Apr 6, 2017, at 1:55 AM, 'Martin Escardo' via Homotopy Type Theory <HomotopyT...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> On 06/04/17 01:23, Jon Sterling wrote:
>> I am curious, does this development use univalence except to establish
>> functional extensionality and propositional extensionality? The reason I
>> ask is, I wonder if it is possible to do a similar development of
>> computability theory in extensional type theory and get analogous
>> results. Additionally, I am curious whether you have found cases in
>> which univalence clarifies or sharpens this development, since I'm
>> trying to keep track of interesting use-cases of univalence.
>
> Currently the only place that uses univalence is the equivalence of
> (X->Y) with the type of single-valued relations X->Y->U. (This was
> proved by Egbert in his mater thesis.)
>
> But another point, compared with previous developments in topos logic
> an extensional type theory, is that a number of things work as they
> should for types more general than sets by replacing
> subobject-classifier-valued functions by universe-valued functions.
>
> An example is this: Consider the lifing in its representation with
> subsingletons
>
> L(X) = (Sigma(A:X->U), isProp(Sigma(x:X), A(x))).
>
> If we replaced U by Prop in this definition, this wouldn't work well
> for types that are not sets.
>
> For example, if X is the circle, any function into a set, and hence
> any function into Prop, is constant, and so L(X) would be
> contractible.
>
> However, with the definition as it is, with U, we always have that X
> is embedded into L(X), even if X is not a set.
>
> The same phenomenon applies to the equivalence of (X->Y) with the type
> of single-valued relations X->Y->U discussed above, but this
> additionally requires univalence.
>
> Martin
>
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-04-06 12:40 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-03-27 21:57 Conjecture Martin Escardo
2017-03-29 21:08 ` [HoTT] Conjecture Nicolai Kraus
2017-03-29 22:05 ` Martin Escardo
2017-03-30 10:59 ` Michael Shulman
2017-03-30 19:22 ` Egbert Rijke
2017-03-30 23:02 ` Nicolai Kraus
2017-03-30 22:49 ` Nicolai Kraus
2017-03-31 16:09 ` Martin Escardo
2017-04-05 19:37 ` Martin Escardo
2017-04-06 0:23 ` Jon Sterling
2017-04-06 5:55 ` Martin Escardo
2017-04-06 12:40 ` Vladimir Voevodsky [this message]
2017-04-06 13:50 ` Martin Escardo
[not found] ` <81c0782f-9287-4111-a4f1-01cb9c87c7e8@cs.bham.ac.uk>
2017-04-06 16:09 ` Martin Escardo
2017-04-06 11:52 ` Thomas Streicher
2017-04-07 9:49 ` Martin Escardo
2017-04-07 17:11 ` Michael Shulman
2017-04-07 18:10 ` Martin Escardo
2017-04-03 0:35 ` Conjecture Daniel R. Grayson
2017-04-03 2:20 ` [HoTT] Conjecture Favonia
2017-04-03 9:56 ` Nicolai Kraus
2017-04-03 11:50 ` Daniel R. Grayson
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