From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Received: by 10.107.128.160 with SMTP id k32mr4035542ioi.20.1466083987043; Thu, 16 Jun 2016 06:33:07 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: homotopytypetheory@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.36.60.150 with SMTP id m144ls637876ita.20.gmail; Thu, 16 Jun 2016 06:33:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.66.41.81 with SMTP id d17mr3466494pal.31.1466083986327; Thu, 16 Jun 2016 06:33:06 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mail-vk0-x22f.google.com (mail-vk0-x22f.google.com. [2607:f8b0:400c:c05::22f]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id v190si21059vkf.2.2016.06.16.06.33.06 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 16 Jun 2016 06:33:06 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of urs.sc...@googlemail.com designates 2607:f8b0:400c:c05::22f as permitted sender) client-ip=2607:f8b0:400c:c05::22f; Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; dkim=pass head...@googlemail.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of urs.sc...@googlemail.com designates 2607:f8b0:400c:c05::22f as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=urs.sc...@googlemail.com; dmarc=pass (p=QUARANTINE dis=NONE) header.from=googlemail.com Received: by mail-vk0-x22f.google.com with SMTP id d185so70978103vkg.0 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2016 06:33:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=yHSlNzl9yrWiTOzgh2vEn1UpEobC2zOt1nT0VulBmSA=; b=a98kfNt6b+I70X5W1RErhyQTrkGtMSJ/JB8f05ckFQh8mz96JsPz+wA5dfREqrPCzM yGpDOXNEIs/ABpA1WXE14r+CqkhMsOhvq2jjfMxJXrfs8Tr2VmD1gWBDDnCVuJDODaMx FNf8EQGSgARbI7S4HvNvMcW4Nkk1gSfkqwIyvjmp1dYjaWwephr1zZ1L8LxV+kpY6V2p LvCB45BRr/5l2Zn/Byos70GhwqPqtj7MsdhUnx3DU6w19T9N8VHs8Omt1cYPyjasFVDk xVT6xM55eacfxtmHwiwFbQ46vUGe9cXCtmAxEQomnB2kDhD32svaevxTrhnq3vfb63zr hCng== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tJ3My9bWRs7iOZJ165An5tWjvMOPhMO7dzqRgzMdPyFOmNE60XjkcOPnJHStbt8kRAoAadI/Q01d0vQFA== X-Received: by 10.31.191.76 with SMTP id p73mr2041792vkf.11.1466083986030; Thu, 16 Jun 2016 06:33:06 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.103.88.140 with HTTP; Thu, 16 Jun 2016 06:33:05 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <8C57894C7413F04A98DDF5629FEC90B138B93747@Pli.gst.uqam.ca> <2850536B-0DB8-4F6D-AB3F-D5C28F6855B4@cmu.edu> From: Urs Schreiber Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2016 15:33:05 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [HoTT] Is synthetic the right word? To: Bas Spitters Cc: =?UTF-8?Q?andr=C3=A9_hirschowitz?= , Steve Awodey , =?UTF-8?Q?Joyal=2C_Andr=C3=A9?= , Homotopy Type Theory Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > It is "the same" in the standard model, but the theorem in HoTT gives > a more general result than the one in classical homotopy. Indeed, and this is usefully compared to the original use of "synthetic" in "synthetic geomety": Euclid's synthetic axioms for geometry (without the parallel axiom) were thought to apply only to classical flat Euclidean space. The surprise was immense when it was realized that the same synthetic geometry has interpretation also in hyperbolic geometry and in elliptic geometry. That is the prospect of synthetic homotopy theory: to be for homotopy theory what the generalization from flat to curved spaces has been for geometry.