The definition of univalence for BCH cubical sets in =
https://arxiv.org/abs/1710.109=
41 does satisfy the property that fst(coe(ua(e))) =3D fst(e) : A -> =
B exactly. They note (Remark 7) that the definition can also be adjusted so=
that transporting backwards along the equivalence gives the inverse functi=
on one can extract from e.

Roughly, the problem Da=
n describes in ABCFHL---that the B in Glue [alpha -> T] B can also depen=
d on the direction of coercion x---can be avoided in the BCH analogue of Gl=
ue by simply demanding that B is degenerate in x. The restricted operation =
is still sufficient to prove univalence. We can't make sense of this in=
a structural cubical set model because the property of being degenerate in=
a given variable isn't stable under diagonal substitution.

Evan

2019=E5=B9=B49=E6=9C=8818=E6=97=A5(=E6=B0=
=B4) 15:23 Michael Shulman <shul=
man@sandiego.edu>:

Thanks, that's very interesting!

The reason I ask is that I was wondering to what extent the type "A=3D= B"

can be regarded as "a coherent definition of equivalence" alongsi= de

half-adjoint equivalences, maps with contractible fibers, etc.=C2=A0 Of

course in some sense it is (even in Book HoTT), since it's equivalentto Equiv(A,B); but the question is how practical it is -- for

instance, is it reasonable when doing synthetic homotopy theory to

state all equivalences as equalities?

In practice, the way we often construct equivalences is to make them

out of a quasi-inverse pair, and all the standard definitions of

equivalence have the nice property that they remember the two

functions in the quasi-inverse pair judgmentally.=C2=A0 My experience with<= br> the HoTT/Coq library is that this property is very useful, which is

one reason we state equivalences as equivalences rather than making

use of univalence to state them as equalities (another reason is that

it avoids "univalence-redexes" all over the theory).=C2=A0 Half-a= djoint

equivalences have the additional nice property that they remember one

of the homotopies judgmentally, and if you're willing to prove the

coherence 2-path by hand then they can be made to remember both of the

homotopies; this seems to be much less useful than I thought it would

be when we made the choice to use half-adjoint equivalences in the

HoTT/Coq library, but it has proven useful at least once.

So I was wondering to what extent equality of types in cubical type

theory has properties like this.=C2=A0 It sounds from what you say like the=

answer is "not much".=C2=A0 This makes the lack of regularity see= m like a

rather more serious problem than I had previously thought.

On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 9:15 AM Licata, Dan <dlicata@wesleyan.edu> wrote:

>

> In ABCFHL, even the function fst(coe(ua(e))) : A -> B is only path-= equal to fst(e) : A -> B.=C2=A0 If I recall correctly, the issue is that= composition in the Glue type that you use to implement ua doesn=E2=80=99t = judgementally give you f; instead there is some morally-the-identity-compos= ition=C2=A0 (that would cancel with regularity) that gets stuck in.=C2=A0 T= his is because the general algorithm for composition in the glue type has t= o coerce in the =E2=80=9Cbase=E2=80=9D of the glue type (B in Glue [alpha -= > T] B), which in the case of ua(e) =3D Glue [x =3D 0 -> (A,e), x=3D1= -> (B,id)] B is degenerate in x, but in general might not be.

>

> I don=E2=80=99t recall any cubical type theories solving this, but I d= on=E2=80=99t remember the details of all of the other variations that have = been explored well enough to say for sure.

>

> > On Sep 18, 2019, at 11:42 AM, Michael Shulman <shulman@sandiego.edu> wro= te:

> >

> > Let Equiv(A,B) denote the type of half-adjoint equivalences, so t= hat

> > an e:Equiv(A,B) consists of five data: a function A -> B, a fu= nction B

> > -> A, two homotopies, and a coherence 2-path.=C2=A0 Using univ= alence, we

> > can make e into an identification ua(e) : A=3DB, and then back in= to an

> > equivalence coe(ua(e)) : Equiv(A,B), which is typally equal to e.=

> >

> > Now we might wonder whether coe(ua(e)) might be in fact *judgment= ally*

> > equal to e; or at least whether this might be true of some, if no= t

> > all, of its five components.=C2=A0 In Book HoTT this is clearly n= ot the

> > case, since univalence is posited as an axiom about which we know=

> > nothing else.=C2=A0 But what about cubical type theories?=C2=A0 C= an any of the

> > components of an equivalence e be recovered, up to judgmental

> > equality, from coe(ua(e))?=C2=A0 (My guess would be that at least= the

> > function A -> B, and probably also the function B -> A, can= be

> > recovered, but perhaps not more.)

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