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From: Eric Finster <ericf...@gmail.com>
To: "Bas Spitters" <"b.a.w.s..."@gmail.com>,
	"andré hirschowitz" <"a..."@unice.fr>
Cc: Andrej Bauer <andrej...@andrej.com>,
	 Homotopy Type Theory <HomotopyT...@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: [HoTT] Is synthetic the right word?
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2016 14:38:44 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAGYJgtaJUG3ed7-VMZwf-16UP=yehEQc-fARcnHY5cUP7W39CQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAOoPQuS0FR4FeZfpxM2RMFkyFOa0XintNLs=TxAE7NnM5g_OJw@mail.gmail.com>

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>
> The Blakers-Massey theorem has *interesting* interpretations in other
> oo-toposes.
>

At least in the case which I know best, that of interpreting the theorem in
the
presheaf topos [Fin_*, S] of functors on finite, pointed spaces to spaces,
I don't think I would say that the interpretation is more interesting: it
is just
interpreted pointwise.

It is rather the interaction of the theorem with another set of modalities
in
[Fin_*, S] which I think is interesting, and gives some new results.

But since this topos lies outside of the realm in which we can interpret
univalent
type theory right now, we still have to rely on the infty-categorified
proof to
say that we indeed know the theorem holds.

Eric


>
> On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 4:07 PM, andré hirschowitz <a...@unice.fr> wrote:
> > Hi!
> >
> > 2016-06-16 15:15 GMT+02:00 Andrej Bauer <andrej...@andrej.com>:
> >>
> >> So at least at this level it
> >> is a bit pointless to discuss things in absolute terms. The HoTT
> >> proofs are *also* about the usual spheres.
> >
> >
> >
> > I disagree with this formulation. It is not at all pointless (with
> respect
> > to positions, publications and the like) to make clear in which sense
> > synthetic spheres strictly encompass classical ones (and potentially
> > "non-euclidian" future ones).
> >
> > And instead of stressing that these HoTT proofs are *also* about the
> usual
> > spheres, we should rather stress that these HoTT proofs are *not at all
> > only* about the usual spheres.
> >
> > andré H
> >
> >
> >
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  reply	other threads:[~2016-06-16 14:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-06-15 18:26 andré hirschowitz
2016-06-15 23:13 ` [HoTT] " Joyal, André
2016-06-16  8:56   ` andré hirschowitz
2016-06-16 12:37     ` Steve Awodey
2016-06-16 13:04       ` andré hirschowitz
2016-06-16 13:15         ` Andrej Bauer
2016-06-16 13:35           ` Steve Awodey
2016-06-16 14:07           ` andré hirschowitz
2016-06-16 14:15             ` Bas Spitters
2016-06-16 14:38               ` Eric Finster [this message]
2016-06-16 17:07                 ` Thierry Coquand
2016-06-16 17:51                   ` Eric Finster
2016-06-16 17:58                     ` Thierry Coquand
2016-06-16 18:18                     ` Urs Schreiber
2016-06-16 18:41                       ` Eric Finster
2016-06-16 14:42               ` Urs Schreiber
2016-06-16 16:55               ` andré hirschowitz
2016-06-16 14:32             ` Marc Bezem
2016-06-16 14:50             ` Steve Awodey
2016-06-16 13:16         ` Bas Spitters
2016-06-16 13:33           ` Urs Schreiber
2016-06-16 15:03       ` Joyal, André
     [not found]         ` <CAOvivQyNdvTLN5f8e8OikWbCKye0fk7ZocGVMfLkWL+5moBaxw@mail.gmail.com>
2016-06-16 16:28           ` Joyal, André
2016-06-16 16:52             ` Cale Gibbard
2016-06-16 10:27 ` Andrej Bauer
2016-06-16 11:08   ` Nicola Gambino
2016-06-16 11:17   ` Cale Gibbard
     [not found]   ` <5762889C.8080401@cs.bham.ac.uk>
2016-06-16 19:18     ` Martin Escardo
2016-06-16 20:02       ` Egbert Rijke
2016-06-16 21:41       ` Joyal, André

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