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From: Egbert Rijke <e.m.rijke@gmail.com>
To: "José Manuel Rodriguez Caballero" <josephcmac@gmail.com>
Cc: Homotopy Type Theory <HomotopyTypeTheory@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: [HoTT] What is knot in HOTT?
Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2018 01:45:13 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAGqv1OB=hStch1B+0XvwCHG1_5++LzqnvEgScw3FLETOteS4sw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAA8xVUgqJFUE56+BZnNKwA-kar675Dobkm45hgR4RX+srhG6gg@mail.gmail.com>

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Dear Jose,

One idea I have been playing around with is to define a knot to consist of
a map S1 -> S3 together with a type X equipped with maps S1 x S1 -> X and X
-> S3, and a homotopy witnessing that the square

S1 x S1 ----------> X
   |                |
   |                |
   V                V
  S1 -------------> S3

commutes, and is a pushout square. The idea is that a knot is a topological
embedding of S1 into S3. We can fatten its image up to an embedding from S1
x D2 -> S3, where D2 is the unit disc. Its boundary is the torus S1 x S1,
and the embedding S1 x D2 -> S3 also has a complement. Then S3 should be
the homotopy pushout of S1 and the complement of the subspace S1 x D2 in S3.

The problem is of course representing known knots in this way, which I
don't really know how to do. For example, what is the homotopy type of the
complement of the trefoil. This is probably known in the existing
literature about knots, but I must admit that I don't know it. And also,
what is the embedding S1 -> S3 for the trefoil knot? The fiber inclusion of
the Hopf fibration perhaps? That would be a guess.

I would be very interested to hear if others have ideas on this topic. And
just to repeat myself, I also don't know for sure if the above is a correct
representation of a knot in HoTT.

With kind regards,
Egbert

On Thu, Jul 19, 2018, 1:18 AM José Manuel Rodriguez Caballero <
josephcmac@gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear HoTT group,
>   I'm thinking in the following question: What is the type-theoretic
> definition of a knot in HoTT?
>
> Thank you in advance if you have some answers.
>
> Sincerely yours,
> Jose Manuel Rodriguez Caballero
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  reply	other threads:[~2018-07-19  5:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-07-19  5:18 José Manuel Rodriguez Caballero
2018-07-19  5:45 ` Egbert Rijke [this message]
2018-07-19  8:55   ` Ali Caglayan
2018-07-19 15:31     ` Michael Shulman
2018-07-20 10:27       ` 'Urs Schreiber' via Homotopy Type Theory
2018-07-20 13:32         ` Michael Shulman
2018-07-20 13:45           ` 'Urs Schreiber' via Homotopy Type Theory
2018-07-20 14:54             ` Michael Shulman
2018-07-20 15:17               ` Joyal, André
2018-07-20 16:40               ` 'Urs Schreiber' via Homotopy Type Theory
2018-07-20 16:42                 ` 'Urs Schreiber' via Homotopy Type Theory
2019-11-20 19:13     ` Ali Caglayan
2019-11-20 21:02       ` andré hirschowitz
2018-07-19 17:56   ` Daniel R. Grayson
2018-07-19 18:38     ` Egbert Rijke
2018-07-19 20:07       ` José Manuel Rodriguez Caballero

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