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From: Michael Shulman <shu...@sandiego.edu>
To: Jason Gross <jason...@gmail.com>
Cc: Kristina Sojakova <sojakova...@gmail.com>,
	 "HomotopyT...@googlegroups.com" <HomotopyT...@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: [HoTT] Does "adding a path" preserve truncation levels?
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2018 22:30:32 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAOvivQw=z_gas6Ut=n4OWraJe5uZHnurFLD6L9S3VBttm5VMOg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKObCar3XaUeaizgH6X9cynkOO7LHWW2-GF9OzHVgrVrYOFVow@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Jan 4, 2018 at 8:27 PM, Jason Gross <jason...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> It's clear that we can't generalise and replace Bool (which is S^0) by
>> S^k, but the above looks plausible to me.
>
> It's clear to me that we can't simply replace Bool with S^k, but why can't
> we generalize by replacing Bool with S^k and replacing the condition "n > 0"
> with "n > k" simultaneously?

Because S^1 is a 1-type, but its suspension S^2 is not a 2-type.

>
> On Thu, Jan 4, 2018 at 10:29 PM Kristina Sojakova
> <sojakova...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> HI Nicolai,
>>
>> It seems to me that this is true. Fixing (X,a,b), I was using the
>> presentation
>>
>> [-] : X -> pushout
>>
>> p : [a] =_pushout [b]
>>
>> as the HIT in question.
>>
>> I tried using Dan's encode-decode method to show that this HIT is
>> n-truncated if X is. I defined Code so that Code([x],[y]) is the type below:
>>
>> (x = y) + ((x = a) x (b = y) x \Sigma_{n : Nat} Fin(n) -> b = a) + ((x =
>> b) x (a = y) x \Sigma_{n : Nat} Fin(n) -> a = b)
>>
>> which is (n-1 )-truncated, so this proves the HIT is n-truncated as
>> desired. Here Fin(n+1) is the finite type with n+1 constructors. The
>> intuition for the above type is that, if we look at paths from [x] to [y] in
>> the HIT, they can be generated in one of 3 ways:
>>
>> 1) apply [-] to a path from x to y
>>
>> 2) apply [-] to a path from x to a, then do p, then apply [-] to a path
>> from b to a, then do p, then (repeat) ... then apply [-] to a path from b to
>> y
>>
>> 3) apply [-] to a path from x to b, then do p^{-1}, then apply [-] to a
>> path from a to b, then do p^{-1}, then (repeat) ... then apply [-] to a path
>> from a to y
>>
>> I have not worked out the details in full yet but this would be my first
>> attempt at answering your question.
>>
>> Kristina
>>
>>
>>
>> On 1/4/2018 6:41 PM, Nicolai Kraus wrote:
>>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> is something known about the status of the following question in
>> book-HoTT:
>>
>> Given a span
>>   X <- Bool -> Unit
>> where the type X is n-truncated (of h-level n+2), with n > 0, can it be
>> shown that the homotopy pushout is n-truncated?
>>
>> In other words: If we are given an n-type X with two specified points and
>> we add a single new path between the points, is the result still an n-type?
>> It's clear that we can't generalise and replace Bool (which is S^0) by
>> S^k, but the above looks plausible to me. I don't see how to answer it
>> though.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Nicolai
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  reply	other threads:[~2018-01-05  6:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-01-04 23:41 Nicolai Kraus
2018-01-05  3:29 ` [HoTT] " Kristina Sojakova
2018-01-05  4:27   ` Jason Gross
2018-01-05  6:30     ` Michael Shulman [this message]
2018-01-05 17:24   ` Nicolai Kraus
2018-01-05 17:40 ` Michael Shulman

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