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From: Michael Shulman <shulman@sandiego.edu>
To: Paolo Capriotti <p.capriotti@gmail.com>
Cc: HomotopyTypeTheory@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [HoTT] Re: Proof that something is an embedding without assuming excluded middle?
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2018 07:52:30 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAOvivQxEXOacvezQH-3Jf7_1aNB7o__9t7sYjv587jqOcb7yFA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5b276491-e7b8-442a-b76a-d395f8e916a6@googlegroups.com>

Here's a sketch of a more conceptual argument.  Both 𝓤 and P → 𝓤 are
the object-types of (oo-)categories, and Π is the object-map of a
right adjoint functor whose counit is an equivalence.  Thus, by a
standard argument, it is fully faithful, and hence also fully faithful
on equivalences (which, by univalence, are the equalities).  Of course
we can't define the whole oo-categories in Book HoTT, but I think this
is one of those arguments that only needs the 1- or 2-dimensional
structure.
On Wed, Nov 14, 2018 at 3:07 AM Paolo Capriotti <p.capriotti@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Tue, 13 Nov 2018, at 8:32 PM, Martín Hötzel Escardó wrote:
> > Let P be a subsingleton and 𝓤 be a universe, and consider the
> > product map
> >
> >   Π : (P → 𝓤) → 𝓤
> >          A     ↦ Π (p:P), A(p).
> >
> > Is this an embedding? (In the sense of having subsingleton
> > fibers.)
> >
> > It is easy to see that this is the case if P=𝟘 or P=𝟙 (empty or
> > singleton type).
> >
> > But the reasons are fundamentally different:
> >
> > (0) If P=𝟘, the domain of Π is equivalent to 𝟙, and Π amounts to
> >     the map 𝟙 → 𝓤 with constant value 𝟙.
> >
> >     In general, a function 𝟙 → X into a type X is *not* an
> >     embedding. Such a function is an embedding iff it maps the
> >     point of 𝟙 to a point x:X such that the type x=x is a
> >     singleton.
> >
> >     And indeed for X:=𝓤 we have that the type 𝟙=𝟙 is a singleton.
> >
> > (1) If P=𝟙, the domain of Π is equivalent to 𝓤, and Π amounts to
> >     the identity map 𝓤 → 𝓤, which, being an equivalence, is an
> >     embedding.
> >
> > Question. Is there a uniform proof that Π as above for P a
> > subsingleton is an embedding, without considering the case
> > distinction (P=𝟘)+(P=𝟙)?
>
> I think one can show that ap Π is an equivalence by giving an inverse. Given X, Y : P → 𝓤, first note that the equality type X = Y is equivalent by function extensionality to (u : P) → X u = Y u. Since one can prove easily that (u : P) → X u = Π X, it follows that X = Y is equivalent to P → Π X = Π Y. Hence we get a map ω : Π X = Π Y → X = Y. To show that it is indeed an inverse of ap Π, start with some α : Π X = Π Y. By following the construction above, we get that ap Π (ω α) maps a function h : Π X to λ u . α (λ v . tr^X [u,v] (h u)) u, where [u,v] : u = v is given by the fact that P is a proposition. Now, within the assumption u : P, the λ expression in brackets is equal to h itself, hence ap Π (ω α) = α. The other composition is easier, since it can just be checked on reflexivity.
>
> Best,
> Paolo
>
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  reply	other threads:[~2018-11-14 15:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-11-13 20:32 [HoTT] " Martín Hötzel Escardó
2018-11-13 20:36 ` [HoTT] " Martín Hötzel Escardó
2018-11-13 23:47 ` Jean Joseph
2018-11-14 10:23   ` Martín Hötzel Escardó
2018-11-14 11:07     ` Paolo Capriotti
2018-11-14 15:52       ` Michael Shulman [this message]
2018-11-15 11:05         ` Martín Hötzel Escardó
2018-11-15 19:23           ` Martín Hötzel Escardó
2018-11-15 19:29             ` Michael Shulman
2018-11-15 22:26               ` Martín Hötzel Escardó
2018-11-15 23:38                 ` Michael Shulman
2018-11-14 19:00       ` Martín Hötzel Escardó

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