Discussion of Homotopy Type Theory and Univalent Foundations
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From: Michael Shulman <shulman@sandiego.edu>
To: Martin Hotzel Escardo <escardo.martin@gmail.com>
Cc: HomotopyTypeTheory@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [HoTT] Re: Proof that something is an embedding without assuming excluded middle?
Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2018 15:38:13 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAOvivQyHbHg52611F-sD_4XRAvWCf_tw+nT3=EdtMVGGKN_Mdg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <522f566c-54db-4a23-8cfe-1a2d1e9dd697@googlegroups.com>

I remember noticing before that the P x (-) co-modal types coincide
with the P -> (-) modal ones.  In topos-theoretic language, these
common sub-universes are the slice category E/P, which is related to E
by an essential geometric embedding, hence an adjoint triple i_! -|
i^* -| i_* in which both i_! and i_* are fully faithful.  The left
adjoint i_! embeds E/P as the P x (-) co-modal types, while the right
adjoint i_* embeds it as the P -> (-) modal ones.
On Thu, Nov 15, 2018 at 2:26 PM Martín Hötzel Escardó
<escardo.martin@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> On Thursday, 15 November 2018 19:30:08 UTC, Michael Shulman wrote:
>>
>> However, this sub-universe coinciding with the modal reflection of the
>> whole universe seems to be something very special about open
>> modalities.
>
>
> We may consider the dual question of whether Σ is an embedding:
>
>  s : (P → 𝓤) → 𝓤
>  s = Σ
>
> This is again a section of the same retraction r : 𝓤 → (P → 𝓤) defined
> by
>
>  r X p = X.
>
> This time we have that the idempotent s ∘ r satisfies
>
>  s (r X) = P × X
>
> definitionally.
>
> So consider the projection κ : (X : 𝓤) → s (r X) → X
> and the sub-universe determined by this co-modal operator P × (-):
>
>  C := Σ \(X : 𝓤) → is-equiv (κ X)
>
> Then again we have a definitional factorization of s as
>
>  (P → 𝓤) ≃ C ↪ 𝓤,
>
> where the embedding is the projection, showing that s = Σ is an
> embedding too, and that M ≃ C, even though the fixed points of P → (-)
> and P × (-) are quite different if e.g. P = 𝟘.
>
> So the subuniverse of P × (-) - co-modal types coincides with the
> P → (-) - modal reflection of the universe.
>
> (I coded this in Agda to be sure this is not an evening mirage,
> available at the same place. The proof was produced by copy and paste
> of the previous one, with very few modifications.)
>
> Martin
>
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  reply	other threads:[~2018-11-15 23:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-11-13 20:32 [HoTT] " Martín Hötzel Escardó
2018-11-13 20:36 ` [HoTT] " Martín Hötzel Escardó
2018-11-13 23:47 ` Jean Joseph
2018-11-14 10:23   ` Martín Hötzel Escardó
2018-11-14 11:07     ` Paolo Capriotti
2018-11-14 15:52       ` Michael Shulman
2018-11-15 11:05         ` Martín Hötzel Escardó
2018-11-15 19:23           ` Martín Hötzel Escardó
2018-11-15 19:29             ` Michael Shulman
2018-11-15 22:26               ` Martín Hötzel Escardó
2018-11-15 23:38                 ` Michael Shulman [this message]
2018-11-14 19:00       ` Martín Hötzel Escardó

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