Discussion of Homotopy Type Theory and Univalent Foundations
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From: Thorsten Altenkirch <Thorsten.Altenkirch@nottingham.ac.uk>
To: Thomas Streicher <streicher@mathematik.tu-darmstadt.de>,
	Bas Spitters <b.a.w.spitters@gmail.com>
Cc: "Martín Hötzel Escardó" <escardo.martin@gmail.com>,
	homotopytypetheory <homotopytypetheory@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: [HoTT] Re: Precategories, Categories and Univalent categories
Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2018 14:05:56 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <EA41C405-0C81-4258-88CA-AF978613AEE8@exmail.nottingham.ac.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20181107135317.GB26970@mathematik.tu-darmstadt.de>

Something that only satisfies the axioms of a category but whose homs are not sets I would call a "wild category".

So yes a category needs to have homsets otherwise you have to give it a number.  And -1-categories already have a name they are called preorders. 

I think the interesting notion for HoTT are categories whose Homs are types and which fullfill all the coherence conditions, i.e. they correspond to (\infty,1)-categories. Nicolai and Paolo gave a definition of univalent (\infty,1)-cats in 2-level HoTT as "complete Segal types". From this one can aslo derive non-univalent (\inft,1)-cats but in this case it is easier to define the univalent version because then you don't have to deal with degeneracies.

Thorsten

On 07/11/2018, 13:53, "homotopytypetheory@googlegroups.com on behalf of Thomas Streicher" <homotopytypetheory@googlegroups.com on behalf of streicher@mathematik.tu-darmstadt.de> wrote:

    It would appear to me as natural to call "categories" the most general
    notion and "univalent" those ones which validate the univalence axiom.
    In any case the word "category" should not imply univalence.
    
    But there is a point that one might call the most general notion
    "precategory" and "categories" those precategories whose hom types
    validate UIP, i.e. are sets.
    
    But then univalent categories are not categories but just precategories.
    Why not call the general notion "\infty-category" as usual?
    
    Thomas
    
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  reply	other threads:[~2018-11-07 14:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-11-07 10:03 [HoTT] " Ali Caglayan
2018-11-07 10:31 ` [HoTT] " Paolo Capriotti
2018-11-07 10:35 ` Ulrik Buchholtz
2018-11-07 10:37   ` Ulrik Buchholtz
2018-11-07 11:09   ` Peter LeFanu Lumsdaine
2018-11-07 11:43     ` Ulrik Buchholtz
2018-11-07 11:50       ` Erik Palmgren
2018-11-07 11:51       ` Ulrik Buchholtz
2018-11-07 12:03         ` Erik Palmgren
2018-11-07 12:21           ` Martín Hötzel Escardó
2018-11-07 13:00             ` Erik Palmgren
2018-11-07 13:02             ` Bas Spitters
2018-11-07 13:47               ` Ali Caglayan
2018-11-07 13:53               ` Thomas Streicher
2018-11-07 14:05                 ` Thorsten Altenkirch [this message]
2018-11-07 13:58       ` Thorsten Altenkirch
2018-11-07 14:14         ` Ulrik Buchholtz
2018-11-07 14:27           ` Peter LeFanu Lumsdaine
     [not found]             ` <CAOvivQyG1q9=3YoS8hX3bRQK0yi+mpBnJu+rqb3oon0uPLpZ4A@mail.gmail.com>
2018-11-07 20:01               ` Michael Shulman
2018-11-08 21:37               ` Martín Hötzel Escardó
2018-11-08 21:43                 ` Michael Shulman
2018-11-09  4:43                   ` Andrew Polonsky
2018-11-09 10:18                     ` Ulrik Buchholtz
2018-11-09 10:57                       ` Paolo Capriotti
2018-11-07 14:31           ` Thorsten Altenkirch
2018-11-07 14:05       ` Peter LeFanu Lumsdaine
2018-11-07 14:28         ` Ulrik Buchholtz
2018-11-07 15:35           ` Thomas Streicher
2018-11-07 16:54             ` Thorsten Altenkirch
2018-11-07 16:56               ` Thorsten Altenkirch
2018-11-07 17:31                 ` Eric Finster
2018-11-08 11:58               ` Thomas Streicher
2018-11-08 12:23                 ` [HoTT] " Emily Riehl
2018-11-08 12:28                   ` Emily Riehl
2018-11-08 14:01                     ` Thomas Streicher
2018-11-08 16:10                   ` Thomas Streicher
2018-11-08 14:38                 ` [HoTT] " Michael Shulman
2018-11-08 21:08                   ` Thomas Streicher
2018-11-08 21:30                     ` Michael Shulman
2018-11-09 11:56                       ` Thomas Streicher
2018-11-09 13:46                         ` Michael Shulman
2018-11-09 15:06                           ` Thomas Streicher
2018-11-08 16:01                 ` Thorsten Altenkirch
2018-11-08 19:39                   ` Thorsten Altenkirch
2018-11-07 20:00         ` Michael Shulman
2018-11-08 21:35 ` Martín Hötzel Escardó

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