Re: [HoTT] Re: M. Shulman, Towards Third-Generation HOTT, April 14, 21, and 28 - HoTTEST Distinguished Lecture Series

["Martín Hötzel Escardó" <escardo.martin@gmail.com>]

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I am not happy at all with what Mike said in the above pull request 
discussion, and I said so there, but at the same time I think that 
cancelling his talk was the wrong thing to do. 

Everybody should move on positively after the resolution that Andrej 
discussed above, and I don't consider cancelling his talk to be a positive 
move. 

I am by no means excusing Mike from what he did - this is something he 
should work on to resolve himself. 

What I am saying is that cancelling somebody who has apologized publicly is 
not contributing to reinstate the welcoming atmosphere we've had in this 
community for a long time here. 

Martin

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On Thursday, 14 April 2022 at 12:49:15 UTC+1 Andrej Bauer wrote:

> The organizers of the HoTTest seminar did not refer explicitly to the 
> events that prompted them to take their decision, which leaves many people 
> surprised and in the dark. I worry that it may also lead to unfounded 
> speculation and uninformed opinions. As one of the administrators and a 
> HoTT book author I led an effort to bring to conclusion the episode that 
> the HoTTest seminar organizers implicitly referred to. Please allow me then 
> to give a short but incomplete account of the events of the past days as I 
> see it.
>
> A while ago, there was a HoTT book pull request #1101 
> <https://github.com/HoTT/book/pull/1101> asking that "he or she" be 
> replaced with "they", for reasons of inclusivity. The ensuing discussion 
> took on a wider context. Mike Shulman and Dan Grayson expressed views which 
> the other participants strongly opposed and found offensive. Many members 
> of the HoTT community, including authors of the HoTT book, readers, and 
> students, spoke out against Mike's statements and presented reasons for 
> inclusivity. Some described how the issue affected them personally, which I 
> am sure was not easy to do. Overall the discussion was civilized, even 
> though emotions ran high.
>
> The administrators of the HoTT book repository, one of whom is Mike 
> Shulman, unanimously decided to implement the proposed change, as it had 
> very clear support. In addition, Mike Shulman acknowledged that the pull 
> request was not an appropriate place for political discussions, and 
> apologized for derailing the conversation in that direction. He expressed 
> regret that his attempts to explain his views hurt people's feelings. He 
> stated that he meant no harm to anyone.
>
> At present there is a related issue open, issue #1111 
> <https://github.com/HoTT/book/issues/1111>, in which a Code of conduct is 
> being discussed, with the purpose of making sure that such incidents do not 
> happen in the future, and that the community can continue to be welcoming 
> to everyone.
>
> I urge anyone who intends to express an opinion to not base it solely on 
> what I have written here.
>
> With kind regards,
>
> Andrej
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