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* [Howm-eng 40]  customization
@ 2008-04-05 13:41 khi
  2008-04-06  0:00 ` [Howm-eng 41] customization xma
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: khi @ 2008-04-05 13:41 UTC (permalink / raw)


Hi, all.

For your information, I post a copy of my private email (+ a new answer)
to this ML. Thanks for permission > Maillard-san.

============================

> First question: where is the documentation ? 

Thank you for your interest.  There are few English documents of
howm-mode because I am lazy.  So, I would like to post a copy of this
answer to howm-eng ML.  Is it OK?
http://lists.sourceforge.jp/mailman/archives/howm-eng/

This tutorial (erased draft) may also help you.
http://web.archive.org/web/20060206055009/http://dto.twu.net/HowmTutorial.howm.html

> Ok another question: do you have tips or tricks to speed up go-to
> link and friends ? I mean, typing >>> is "hard" and "counter
> productive". So I need to find a way to type these "tags" faster.

Do you mean a simple key binding like this?

(eval-after-load "howm"
  '(define-key howm-mode-map "\C-c,>"
               (lambda () (interactive) (insert ">>> "))))

Or, do you have a better idea?

If you like to change the tag ">>>" itself to a shorter one, do
something like (setq howm-ref-header "->") *before* loading howm-mode.
This variable is defined at the head of howm-mode.el, and several
other variables are set dependently on it.

> Question: globally, how can I customise howm. I do not like the
> default "template" of the note (I do not need date >>>> file on
> every note for example).

">>> file" is erased if you type "\C-/" or "\C-x u" (undo) just after
creating a new note.  To customize the template,
(setq howm-view-title-header "= %title%cursor\n%date\n\n")

You can try M-x customize-group RET howm RET to browse most other
settings.

============================

> Ah, yes, another question :) Is there a way to have "named" note
> instead of dated ? I mean, automatically with some magic key
> binding and not by saving my note as foo.howm.

(global-set-key "\C-c,f" 'howm-create-interactively)
(autoload 'howm-create-interactively "howm" "Hitori Otegaru Wiki Modoki" t)

It is undocumented because I don't like to take care of file names. ;-)

howm-open-naMed-file (C-c , M) may be also interesting.
It is available in howm-1.3.3 or later.
http://lists.sourceforge.jp/mailman/archives/howm-eng/2005/000010.html
http://lists.sourceforge.jp/mailman/archives/howm-eng/2005/000013.html

-- 
khi at users.sourceforge.jp



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* [Howm-eng 41] Re: customization
  2008-04-05 13:41 [Howm-eng 40] customization khi
@ 2008-04-06  0:00 ` xma
  2008-04-07 12:49   ` [Howm-eng 43] " khi
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: xma @ 2008-04-06  0:00 UTC (permalink / raw)



   For your information, I post a copy of my private email (+ a new answer)
   to this ML. Thanks for permission > Maillard-san.

Maillard-san ? I like this :) (I really should learn japanese one day)

   > Ok another question: do you have tips or tricks to speed up go-to
   > link and friends ? I mean, typing >>> is "hard" and "counter
   > productive". So I need to find a way to type these "tags" faster.

   Do you mean a simple key binding like this?

   (eval-after-load "howm"
     '(define-key howm-mode-map "\C-c,>"
		  (lambda () (interactive) (insert ">>> "))))

   Or, do you have a better idea?

This is an idea but why not take advantage of the abbrev
mechanism offered by emacs itself ? I do not know whether emacs
permits such abreviations though. Plus, with emacs 23, something
has changed on this side. (I am putting emacs-devel into the Cc
to get their feeling about this particular point).

   If you like to change the tag ">>>" itself to a shorter one, do
   something like (setq howm-ref-header "->") *before* loading howm-mode.
   This variable is defined at the head of howm-mode.el, and several
   other variables are set dependently on it.

Nice but I think I will stick with this setting since "->" is
something I am using a lot when writing notes/documentations.

	Xavier
-- 
http://www.gnu.org
http://www.april.org
http://www.lolica.org



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* [Howm-eng 43] Re: customization
  2008-04-06  0:00 ` [Howm-eng 41] customization xma
@ 2008-04-07 12:49   ` khi
  2008-04-08  0:00     ` [Howm-eng 46] " xma
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: khi @ 2008-04-07 12:49 UTC (permalink / raw)


Hi.

At Sun, 6 Apr 2008 02:00:20 +0200,
Xavier Maillard wrote:
> This is an idea but why not take advantage of the abbrev
> mechanism offered by emacs itself ? I do not know whether emacs
> permits such abreviations though. Plus, with emacs 23, something
> has changed on this side. (I am putting emacs-devel into the Cc
> to get their feeling about this particular point).

Hmm, I cannot understand your suggestion.  Would you give me a
concrete example of desired behaviors (not codes) ?

By the way, do you know that you can type "C-c , i" to insert a
registered keyword with completions?  It is equivalent to typing
"C-c , ," and RET on "[Key>]".  You don't need to type >>> for such a
keyword; it is automatically linked to the original come-from tag <<<.

-- 
khi at users.sourceforge.jp



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* [Howm-eng 46] Re: customization
  2008-04-07 12:49   ` [Howm-eng 43] " khi
@ 2008-04-08  0:00     ` xma
  2008-04-09 13:12       ` [Howm-eng 54] " khi
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: xma @ 2008-04-08  0:00 UTC (permalink / raw)



   > This is an idea but why not take advantage of the abbrev
   > mechanism offered by emacs itself ? I do not know whether emacs
   > permits such abreviations though. Plus, with emacs 23, something
   > has changed on this side. (I am putting emacs-devel into the Cc
   > to get their feeling about this particular point).

   Hmm, I cannot understand your suggestion.  Would you give me a
   concrete example of desired behaviors (not codes) ?

Well something as simple as "> " expanding to ">>> ".

   By the way, do you know that you can type "C-c , i" to insert a
   registered keyword with completions?

Yes I know this _but_ it won't insert the >>> thingie if the
keyword does not exist first. So in my case (I am starting so my
keyword bank is almost empty), it is pretty useless currently.

Regards,

	Xavier
-- 
http://www.gnu.org
http://www.april.org
http://www.lolica.org



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* [Howm-eng 54] Re: customization
  2008-04-08  0:00     ` [Howm-eng 46] " xma
@ 2008-04-09 13:12       ` khi
  2008-04-12  0:00         ` [Howm-eng 69] " xma
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: khi @ 2008-04-09 13:12 UTC (permalink / raw)


At Tue, 8 Apr 2008 02:00:10 +0200,
Xavier Maillard wrote:
> Well something as simple as "> " expanding to ">>> ".

like this?

(defun my-insert-self-or-link (dummy)
  (interactive "P")
  (if (and (boundp 'howm-mode) howm-mode (looking-back ">"))
      (insert ">> ")
    (call-interactively #'self-insert-command)))
(define-key howm-mode-map " " #'my-insert-self-or-link)



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* [Howm-eng 69] Re: customization
  2008-04-09 13:12       ` [Howm-eng 54] " khi
@ 2008-04-12  0:00         ` xma
  2008-04-14 15:09           ` [Howm-eng 71] " khi
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: xma @ 2008-04-12  0:00 UTC (permalink / raw)



   > Well something as simple as "> " expanding to ">>> ".

   like this?

Not bad but it is not what the emacs's abbrevs are all about

(info "(emacs)Abbrevs")

Regards

	Xavier
-- 
http://www.gnu.org
http://www.april.org
http://www.lolica.org



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* [Howm-eng 71] Re: customization
  2008-04-12  0:00         ` [Howm-eng 69] " xma
@ 2008-04-14 15:09           ` khi
  2008-04-15 22:03             ` [Howm-eng 80] " xma
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: khi @ 2008-04-14 15:09 UTC (permalink / raw)


Hi.

At Sat, 12 Apr 2008 02:00:02 +0200,
Xavier Maillard wrote:
> (info "(emacs)Abbrevs")

I tried it.  But (define-global-abbrev ">" ">>>") causes an error
in GNU Emacs 23.0.60.2.
  abbrev--check-chars: Some abbrev characters (>) are not word constituents in the standard syntax

So, I showed an alternative way in [Howm-eng 54]. :-)

-- 
khi at users.sourceforge.jp



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* [Howm-eng 80] Re: customization
  2008-04-14 15:09           ` [Howm-eng 71] " khi
@ 2008-04-15 22:03             ` xma
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: xma @ 2008-04-15 22:03 UTC (permalink / raw)



   Hi.

   At Sat, 12 Apr 2008 02:00:02 +0200,
   Xavier Maillard wrote:
   > (info "(emacs)Abbrevs")

   I tried it.  But (define-global-abbrev ">" ">>>") causes an error
   in GNU Emacs 23.0.60.2.
     abbrev--check-chars: Some abbrev characters (>) are not word constituents in the standard syntax

   So, I showed an alternative way in [Howm-eng 54]. :-)

I tried here and same result :)

	Xavier
-- 
http://www.gnu.org
http://www.april.org
http://www.lolica.org



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