* [Howm-eng 98] synchronizing howm notes over several computers
@ 2012-09-22 8:50 areiner
2012-09-22 10:55 ` [Howm-eng 99] " vukini
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From: areiner @ 2012-09-22 8:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
Hello,
only recently did I start to use howm, and it seems that this will
turn out a very valuable tool for me to use with just the right mix of
functionality and simplicity - thanks a lot!
However, there are a few points that I am not so clear about, and my
fluency in elisp is rather poor. I am not quite sure whether this
mailing list is still alive and the right place to ask questions about
howm, so I will just try with the most pressing thing first:
- I need to be using howm on several different computers, without any
network connection between them most of the time. Am I correct in
assuming that it is sufficient for me to simply synchronize the
various `howm-directory`s, and to copy any changes between the
accounts without relying on emacs/howm itself? For this I would
probably use a revision control system, probably darcs.
- The thread on "Separating work and personal", and
<http://sourceforge.jp/projects/howm/lists/archive/eng/2008/000059.html>
in particular, make me suspect that I also have to take care of the
various `howm-keyword-file`s. But the contents of
`howm-keyword-file` should actually be a function of the files
contained under howm-directory, so that it seems reasonable to me to
re-generate the keyword file afresh after pulling the changed notes.
As this should be little more than a `grep >>>`, this should not be
too slow (at least for now).
So what is the easiest way to re-generate `howm-keyword-file`? My
impression is that it should be sufficient to delete the file
whenever there are changes to it.
Thanks a lot in advance for any light you can shed on this question!
Albert.
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* [Howm-eng 99] Re: synchronizing howm notes over several computers
2012-09-22 8:50 [Howm-eng 98] synchronizing howm notes over several computers areiner
@ 2012-09-22 10:55 ` vukini
2012-09-23 9:42 ` [Howm-eng 100] " areiner
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From: vukini @ 2012-09-22 10:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
Hi,
I found a solution that works pretty well for me.
I changed the howm-directory variable in howm-vars.el to my shared network/cloud folder on Dropbox.
Then recompiled the file.
Now I have howm synchronised on about 4 different machines and it works great.
if you don't have a network, simply sync the howm folder with all you data on it betwen machines I think would work.
regards,
Vid
On Sep 22, 2012, at 12:50 PM, Albert Reiner <areiner at tph.tuwien.ac.at> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> only recently did I start to use howm, and it seems that this will
> turn out a very valuable tool for me to use with just the right mix of
> functionality and simplicity - thanks a lot!
>
> However, there are a few points that I am not so clear about, and my
> fluency in elisp is rather poor. I am not quite sure whether this
> mailing list is still alive and the right place to ask questions about
> howm, so I will just try with the most pressing thing first:
>
> - I need to be using howm on several different computers, without any
> network connection between them most of the time. Am I correct in
> assuming that it is sufficient for me to simply synchronize the
> various `howm-directory`s, and to copy any changes between the
> accounts without relying on emacs/howm itself? For this I would
> probably use a revision control system, probably darcs.
>
> - The thread on "Separating work and personal", and
> <http://sourceforge.jp/projects/howm/lists/archive/eng/2008/000059.html>
> in particular, make me suspect that I also have to take care of the
> various `howm-keyword-file`s. But the contents of
> `howm-keyword-file` should actually be a function of the files
> contained under howm-directory, so that it seems reasonable to me to
> re-generate the keyword file afresh after pulling the changed notes.
> As this should be little more than a `grep >>>`, this should not be
> too slow (at least for now).
>
> So what is the easiest way to re-generate `howm-keyword-file`? My
> impression is that it should be sufficient to delete the file
> whenever there are changes to it.
>
> Thanks a lot in advance for any light you can shed on this question!
>
> Albert.
>
> _______________________________________________
> Howm-eng mailing list
> Howm-eng at lists.sourceforge.jp
> http://lists.sourceforge.jp/mailman/listinfo/howm-eng
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* [Howm-eng 100] Re: synchronizing howm notes over several computers
2012-09-22 10:55 ` [Howm-eng 99] " vukini
@ 2012-09-23 9:42 ` areiner
2012-09-23 11:51 ` [Howm-eng 101] " khi
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From: areiner @ 2012-09-23 9:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
Hi Vidyuth,
thanks for your speedy reply!
[Vidyuth Kini <vukini at gmail.com>, Sat, 22 Sep 2012 14:55:04 +0400]:
> I changed the howm-directory variable in howm-vars.el to my shared
> network/cloud folder on Dropbox.
Dropbox would not work for me due to the lack of a network connection
most of the time.
> if you don't have a network, simply sync the howm folder with all
> you data on it betwen machines I think would work.
So I take it you don't synchronize the keywords file, without any
adverse effects?
Thanks a lot for your help! Regards,
Albert.
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* [Howm-eng 101] Re: synchronizing howm notes over several computers
2012-09-23 9:42 ` [Howm-eng 100] " areiner
@ 2012-09-23 11:51 ` khi
2012-09-27 9:36 ` [Howm-eng 102] " areiner
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From: khi @ 2012-09-23 11:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
Hi, Albert-san.
`howm-keyword-file` (~/.howm-keys) is necessary for come-from link "<<<".
I added re-generation of it to howm-test120923
(http://howm.sourceforge.jp/a/howm-test.tar.gz),
that should be released as howm-1.4.1 later.
You can simply delete it when you need re-generation.
Please let me know if you have a trouble with this feature.
Thanks for your suggestion :-)
--
khi at users.sourceforge.jp
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* [Howm-eng 102] Re: synchronizing howm notes over several computers
2012-09-23 11:51 ` [Howm-eng 101] " khi
@ 2012-09-27 9:36 ` areiner
2012-10-05 13:37 ` [Howm-eng 103] " khi
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From: areiner @ 2012-09-27 9:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
Hello,
thanks a lot for the new version!
[khi at users.sourceforge.jp, Sun, 23 Sep 2012 20:51:53 +0900]:
> I added re-generation of it to howm-test120923
> (http://howm.sourceforge.jp/a/howm-test.tar.gz),
> that should be released as howm-1.4.1 later.
> You can simply delete it when you need re-generation.
>
> Please let me know if you have a trouble with this feature.
> Thanks for your suggestion :-)
No trouble at all. However, I thought I should let you know that
deleting the keyword file *after* howm was started triggers the
message
find-file-noselect: File ~/.howm-keys no longer exists!
rather than re-generation. No problem at all for me, but it might be
surprising in other situations, and I don't know whether it was
intended to work this way.
Thanks again, and best regards -
Albert.
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* [Howm-eng 103] Re: synchronizing howm notes over several computers
2012-09-27 9:36 ` [Howm-eng 102] " areiner
@ 2012-10-05 13:37 ` khi
2012-10-08 7:19 ` [Howm-eng 104] " areiner
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From: khi @ 2012-10-05 13:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
Hi. thx for your information.
Would you tell me the steps to reproduce this problem?
I couldn't observe the message
"find-file-noselect: File ~/.howm-keys no longer exists!"
in a brief trial.
--
khi at users.sourceforge.jp
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* [Howm-eng 104] Re: synchronizing howm notes over several computers
2012-10-05 13:37 ` [Howm-eng 103] " khi
@ 2012-10-08 7:19 ` areiner
2012-10-09 9:17 ` [Howm-eng 105] " areiner
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From: areiner @ 2012-10-08 7:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
Hi,
sorry for the delay:
[khi at users.sourceforge.jp, Fri, 05 Oct 2012 22:37:50 +0900]:
> Would you tell me the steps to reproduce this problem?
> I couldn't observe the message
> "find-file-noselect: File ~/.howm-keys no longer exists!"
> in a brief trial.
very simple:
$ emacs -q --- do not load ~/.emacs etc.
evaluate just my howm-specific settings in ~/.emacs:
(setq howm-directory "~/.howm/"
howm-list-recent-days 10
howm-menu-schedule-days 20
howm-menu-schedule-days-before 7)
(add-to-list 'load-path "/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/howm/")
(require 'howm)
C-c , , --- show howm menu
q --- quit howm menu
$ rm ~/.howm-keys
C-c , , --- attempt to display howm menu again
---> "File ~/.howm-keys no longer exists!"
HTH,
Albert.
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* [Howm-eng 105] Re: synchronizing howm notes over several computers
2012-10-08 7:19 ` [Howm-eng 104] " areiner
@ 2012-10-09 9:17 ` areiner
2012-12-27 3:31 ` [Howm-eng 111] " khi
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From: areiner @ 2012-10-09 9:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
Sorry, I forgot to add my Emacs version: I am using howm with
GNU Emacs 21.3.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) of 2004-03-06 on willehalm
running under:
Linux willehalm 2.4.24 #7 Wed Jun 2 00:11:16 CEST 2004 i686
GenuineIntel unknown GNU/Linux
Regards,
Albert.
[Albert Reiner <areiner at tph.tuwien.ac.at>, 08 Oct 2012 09:19:56 +0200]:
> Hi,
>
> sorry for the delay:
>
> [khi at users.sourceforge.jp, Fri, 05 Oct 2012 22:37:50 +0900]:
> > Would you tell me the steps to reproduce this problem?
> > I couldn't observe the message
> > "find-file-noselect: File ~/.howm-keys no longer exists!"
> > in a brief trial.
>
> very simple:
>
> $ emacs -q --- do not load ~/.emacs etc.
>
> evaluate just my howm-specific settings in ~/.emacs:
>
> (setq howm-directory "~/.howm/"
> howm-list-recent-days 10
> howm-menu-schedule-days 20
> howm-menu-schedule-days-before 7)
> (add-to-list 'load-path "/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/howm/")
> (require 'howm)
>
> C-c , , --- show howm menu
> q --- quit howm menu
>
> $ rm ~/.howm-keys
>
> C-c , , --- attempt to display howm menu again
> ---> "File ~/.howm-keys no longer exists!"
>
> HTH,
>
> Albert.
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* [Howm-eng 111] Re: synchronizing howm notes over several computers
2012-10-09 9:17 ` [Howm-eng 105] " areiner
@ 2012-12-27 3:31 ` khi
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From: khi @ 2012-12-27 3:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
Hi. Albert-san.
At 09 Oct 2012 11:17:29 +0200,
Albert Reiner wrote:
> GNU Emacs 21.3.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) of 2004-03-06 on willehalm
In Emacs 23.2.1, it only causes a warning with no actual harm.
So, I won't fix this "no longer exists" problem.
| File ~/elisp/howm/sample/.howm-keys no longer exists!
| Saving file /home/hira/elisp/howm/sample/.howm-keys...
| Wrote /home/hira/elisp/howm/sample/.howm-keys
| Generating /home/hira/elisp/howm/sample/.howm-keys ...
I released howm-1.4.1 with re-generation of .howm-keys.
Thanks for your suggestion!
--
khi at users.sourceforge.jp
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