dotnet on illumos?

dotnet on illumos?

[Gordon Ross]

Anyone here know about efforts to port dotnet to illumos?
There has apparently been some progress... (stalled?)
https://github.com/dotnet/runtime/issues/34944

And apparently FreeBSD, Apple, and others have succeeded in getting
"dotnet core" ported.  I'm curious about what work remains, how
difficult, etc.

Thanks,
Gordon

Re: [developer] dotnet on illumos?

[Till Wegmüller]

Hey Gordon

Work was done to port it and got stalled during implementing threads by 
am11 who also opened the Issue in the dotnet repo. I would also be very 
interested in dotnet support and I am willing to test and package it. 
You probably can pickup from his work on github and continue. Apart from 
the patches for thread support all the work seems to be linked in the 
issue or in the linked issues.

I can't remember his IRC username but he should be contactable through 
Github.

Thats all I remember. Maybe others remember more?

-Till

On 10.06.24 21:56, Gordon Ross wrote:
> Anyone here know about efforts to port dotnet to illumos?
> There has apparently been some progress... (stalled?)
> https://github.com/dotnet/runtime/issues/34944
> 
> And apparently FreeBSD, Apple, and others have succeeded in getting
> "dotnet core" ported.  I'm curious about what work remains, how
> difficult, etc.
> 
> Thanks,
> Gordon
> 
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Re: [developer] dotnet on illumos?

[Jonathan Perkin]

* On 2024-06-12 at 17:49 BST, Till Wegmüller wrote:

>Thats all I remember. Maybe others remember more?

Older pkgsrc branches have mono 4.x, for example:

   https://pkgsrc.smartos.org/packages/SmartOS/2020Q4/x86_64/All/mono-4.0.4.1nb23.tgz

which as far as I'm aware worked ok, however I assume this only useful 
for older .Net software?

We always attempt to build the latest version of lang/mono, but it 
obviously fails:

   https://us-central.manta.mnx.io/pkgsrc/public/reports/upstream-trunk/20240611.2249/mono-6.12.0.199nb1/build.log

Cheers,

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Re: [developer] dotnet on illumos?

[Till Wegmüller]

On 12.06.24 19:01, Jonathan Perkin wrote:
> * On 2024-06-12 at 17:49 BST, Till Wegmüller wrote:
> 
>> Thats all I remember. Maybe others remember more?
> 
> Older pkgsrc branches have mono 4.x, for example:
> 
>    
> https://pkgsrc.smartos.org/packages/SmartOS/2020Q4/x86_64/All/mono-4.0.4.1nb23.tgz
> 
> which as far as I'm aware worked ok, however I assume this only useful 
> for older .Net software?

Not just older, You need to be straight up ancient for mono runtime. I 
had to switch a server to linux 7 years ago, due to us missing dotnet 
core support.

> 
> We always attempt to build the latest version of lang/mono, but it 
> obviously fails:
> 
>    
> https://us-central.manta.mnx.io/pkgsrc/public/reports/upstream-trunk/20240611.2249/mono-6.12.0.199nb1/build.log

It seems that it's a seperate runtime from dotnet core. And mono having 
limited support for ASP.NET seems like a bad thing. dotnet core it the 
default runtime and OSS. My vote would be on the dotnet runtime and not 
mono. At my current Job all dotnet apps use dotnet core. Mono is not 
used at all for a long time.

Re: [developer] dotnet on illumos?

[Jason King]

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It looks like maybe we’re missing some functions that need to be defined for illumos

Undefined                      first referenced
symbol                            in file
mono_threads_platform_get_stack_bounds ../../mono/utils/.libs/libmonoutils.a(libmonoutils_la-mono-threads.o)
mono_w32file_get_file_system_type   ../../mono/metadata/.libs/libmonoruntime.a(libmonoruntime_la-icall.o)

Doing a quick search looks like `mono_w32file_get_file_system_type()` might just need to include `__illumos__` in the #ifdef that’s used for other UNIX platforms (it appears to be doing a statvfs(2) call to get `f_basetype` and put the value in the supplied buffer as a UTF-16 string.

`mono_threads_platform_get_stack_bounds()` appears to have a definition for Solaris that’s protected by #ifdef __sun__ -- so I’m not sure offhand why we’re not picking that up since we normally define that (as well as __illumos__).



From: Jonathan Perkin <jperkin@mnx.io>
Date: Wednesday, June 12, 2024 at 12:02 PM
To: illumos-developer <developer@lists.illumos.org>
Subject: Re: [developer] dotnet on illumos?
* On 2024-06-12 at 17:49 BST, Till Wegmüller wrote:

>Thats all I remember. Maybe others remember more?

Older pkgsrc branches have mono 4.x, for example:

   https://pkgsrc.smartos.org/packages/SmartOS/2020Q4/x86_64/All/mono-4.0.4.1nb23.tgz

which as far as I'm aware worked ok, however I assume this only useful
for older .Net software?

We always attempt to build the latest version of lang/mono, but it
obviously fails:

   https://us-central.manta.mnx.io/pkgsrc/public/reports/upstream-trunk/20240611.2249/mono-6.12.0.199nb1/build.log

Cheers,

--
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Re: [developer] dotnet on illumos?

[Jason King]

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Looking at github, https://github.com/dotnet/runtime/tree/main/src/mono suggests the runtime is mono at least for non-Windows systems (but maybe a different branch / copy of the runtime or just copied into the repo from elsewhere as a sort of monorepo?)


From: Till Wegmüller <toasterson@gmail.com>
Date: Wednesday, June 12, 2024 at 12:59 PM
To: developer@lists.illumos.org <developer@lists.illumos.org>
Subject: Re: [developer] dotnet on illumos?
On 12.06.24 19:01, Jonathan Perkin wrote:
> * On 2024-06-12 at 17:49 BST, Till Wegmüller wrote:
>
>> Thats all I remember. Maybe others remember more?
>
> Older pkgsrc branches have mono 4.x, for example:
>
>
> https://pkgsrc.smartos.org/packages/SmartOS/2020Q4/x86_64/All/mono-4.0.4.1nb23.tgz
>
> which as far as I'm aware worked ok, however I assume this only useful
> for older .Net software?

Not just older, You need to be straight up ancient for mono runtime. I
had to switch a server to linux 7 years ago, due to us missing dotnet
core support.

>
> We always attempt to build the latest version of lang/mono, but it
> obviously fails:
>
>
> https://us-central.manta.mnx.io/pkgsrc/public/reports/upstream-trunk/20240611.2249/mono-6.12.0.199nb1/build.log

It seems that it's a seperate runtime from dotnet core. And mono having
limited support for ASP.NET seems like a bad thing. dotnet core it the
default runtime and OSS. My vote would be on the dotnet runtime and not
mono. At my current Job all dotnet apps use dotnet core. Mono is not
used at all for a long time.



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Re: [developer] dotnet on illumos?

[Till Wegmüller]

According to the mono projects history project they kind of halfway 
merged. https://www.mono-project.com/docs/about-mono/dotnet-integration/

But dotnet-core is a separate project from mono.

On 12.06.24 20:22, Jason King wrote:
> Looking at github, https://github.com/dotnet/runtime/tree/main/src/mono 
> <https://github.com/dotnet/runtime/tree/main/src/mono> suggests the 
> runtime is mono at least for non-Windows systems (but maybe a different 
> branch / copy of the runtime or just copied into the repo from elsewhere 
> as a sort of monorepo?)
> 
> *From: *Till Wegmüller <toasterson@gmail.com>
> *Date: *Wednesday, June 12, 2024 at 12:59 PM
> *To: *developer@lists.illumos.org <developer@lists.illumos.org>
> *Subject: *Re: [developer] dotnet on illumos?
> 
> On 12.06.24 19:01, Jonathan Perkin wrote:
>> * On 2024-06-12 at 17:49 BST, Till Wegmüller wrote:
>> 
>>> Thats all I remember. Maybe others remember more?
>> 
>> Older pkgsrc branches have mono 4.x, for example:
>> 
>>    
>> https://pkgsrc.smartos.org/packages/SmartOS/2020Q4/x86_64/All/mono-4.0.4.1nb23.tgz <https://pkgsrc.smartos.org/packages/SmartOS/2020Q4/x86_64/All/mono-4.0.4.1nb23.tgz>
>> 
>> which as far as I'm aware worked ok, however I assume this only useful 
>> for older .Net software?
> 
> Not just older, You need to be straight up ancient for mono runtime. I
> had to switch a server to linux 7 years ago, due to us missing dotnet
> core support.
> 
>> 
>> We always attempt to build the latest version of lang/mono, but it 
>> obviously fails:
>> 
>>    
>> https://us-central.manta.mnx.io/pkgsrc/public/reports/upstream-trunk/20240611.2249/mono-6.12.0.199nb1/build.log <https://us-central.manta.mnx.io/pkgsrc/public/reports/upstream-trunk/20240611.2249/mono-6.12.0.199nb1/build.log>
> 
> It seems that it's a seperate runtime from dotnet core. And mono having
> limited support for ASP.NET seems like a bad thing. dotnet core it the
> default runtime and OSS. My vote would be on the dotnet runtime and not
> mono. At my current Job all dotnet apps use dotnet core. Mono is not
> used at all for a long time.
> 
> 
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