* Should simnet functionality be documented?
@ 2024-09-09 17:51 william
2024-09-09 19:16 ` [discuss] " Joshua M. Clulow
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From: william @ 2024-09-09 17:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Hello all,
I've been working on adding a flag to the dladm create-simnet. While
completing that work, it's been noted that the simnet functionality
isn't really documented anywhere you'd expect to find it. I've found
simnets useful on a few occasions and think more people might as well,
if it were more easily discoverable.
I'm not familiar with any background that may explain the omission,
perhaps a desire to not make an ongoing commitment to the feature, or a
feeling that it's only useful to a very niche audience? There are few
references to simnet outside the code that implements them, the most
definitive being the feature proposal:
https://www.mail-archive.com/opensolaris-arc@mail.opensolaris.org/msg09920.html
Is there a particular reason the feature is well hidden, and would there
be opposition to adding information to the dladm man page and command
help text? I am willing to do the legwork to get the information added.
For reference, the ticket I created may be found at:
https://www.illumos.org/issues/16763
Best,
Bill
william@welliver.org
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* Re: [discuss] Should simnet functionality be documented?
2024-09-09 17:51 Should simnet functionality be documented? william
@ 2024-09-09 19:16 ` Joshua M. Clulow
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From: Joshua M. Clulow @ 2024-09-09 19:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: illumos-discuss
On Mon, 9 Sept 2024 at 10:51, <william@welliver.org> wrote:
> I've been working on adding a flag to the dladm create-simnet. While
> completing that work, it's been noted that the simnet functionality
> isn't really documented anywhere you'd expect to find it. I've found
> simnets useful on a few occasions and think more people might as well,
> if it were more easily discoverable.
Agreed!
> I'm not familiar with any background that may explain the omission,
> perhaps a desire to not make an ongoing commitment to the feature, or a
> feeling that it's only useful to a very niche audience? There are few
> references to simnet outside the code that implements them, the most
> definitive being the feature proposal:
>
> https://www.mail-archive.com/opensolaris-arc@mail.opensolaris.org/msg09920.html
>
> Is there a particular reason the feature is well hidden, and would there
> be opposition to adding information to the dladm man page and command
> help text? I am willing to do the legwork to get the information added.
I think, in general, at Sun, lots of things like simnet that were
engineering tools without strong promises around them were kept from
the immediate notice of customers by omission from the manual and so
on.
I don't think there's any reason for them not to be documented at this
point, though! I believe we make somewhat heavy use of simnet links
at Oxide as part of Falcon, a network topology virtualisation testing
tool:
https://github.com/oxidecomputer/falcon
Thanks for working on it! Let us know if you hit any bumps or need
additional guidance, etc.
Cheers.
--
Joshua M. Clulow
http://blog.sysmgr.org
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