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From: "Joshua M. Clulow" <josh@sysmgr.org>
To: illumos-discuss <discuss@lists.illumos.org>
Subject: Re: [discuss] Illumos future and compatibility with Open-ZFS
Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2024 12:29:06 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAEwA5nKK7=oZ45BjvurYi0_LhZHdVp7xy=VT2fx5kj+4kpV0RA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b986640b-7c71-47bc-b888-cf19680e9172@napp-it.org>

On Mon, 9 Sept 2024 at 07:47, gea@napp-it.org <gea@napp-it.org> wrote:
> some impressions from outside view..
> https://www.reddit.com/r/zfs/comments/1fcohrr/prefer_zfs_stability_of_illumos_zfs_or_best/

This thread is dragging on a bit, so I figured I would try to be a bit
more direct: neither discuss list posts, nor straw polls of Internet
fora, will move the needle on any of this.  It's great to ask
questions about the project, and we try to answer them as best we can,
as in this thread -- but continuing to press and press just ties up
more effort and energy in continuing to engage, lest we then be
accused of being a dead project for not answering when asked difficult
questions!

The crux of the matter is: it's an open source project.  People use it
when it helps them (as it does ostensibly many people, including
several companies who ship illumos in part to use the included ZFS)
and people work on it when it helps them enough already to justify
adding one or two things that are missing.  Choosing an operating
system is like asking a thousand different questions, and then being
forced to answer all those questions the same way because you can only
pick the one; ZFS may be your most important feature, but for others
it might be zones, or DTrace, or networking features, or the ability
to continue running older binary software, etc.

If you're looking for a particular outcome, you need to get involved!
Roll up your sleeves and work on it, or pay someone to work on it.  To
the extent that things get done, that's how.


Cheers.

PS: a few clarifications:

    - it's "illumos" (we never capitalise the leading "i")
    - we consider ourselves totally separate from Solaris at this point
    - it's "OpenZFS" (no hyphen)
    - illumos just has "ZFS", not an outdated version of OpenZFS

-- 
Joshua M. Clulow
http://blog.sysmgr.org

  reply	other threads:[~2024-09-09 19:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-08-05 20:50 shutdown hang with zpools on ISCSI devices Carsten Grzemba
2024-08-05 21:46 ` [discuss] " Joshua M. Clulow
2024-08-06  5:17   ` Carsten Grzemba
2024-08-06  5:29     ` Carsten Grzemba
2024-08-06  5:46       ` Joshua M. Clulow
2024-08-06  6:36         ` Carsten Grzemba
2024-08-06  6:46           ` Joshua M. Clulow
2024-08-06 14:27             ` Carsten Grzemba
2024-08-06 15:16               ` Carsten Grzemba
2024-08-06 19:04               ` Joshua M. Clulow
2024-09-06 11:53               ` Illumos future and compatibility with Open-ZFS gea
2024-09-07  8:30                 ` [discuss] " Joshua M. Clulow
2024-09-07 11:12                   ` Gea
2024-09-07 16:38                     ` Joshua M. Clulow
2024-09-07 21:37                       ` Gea
2024-09-08  8:50                         ` Jorge Schrauwen
2024-09-08  9:55                           ` d
2024-09-09 10:41                             ` Gea
2024-09-09 11:32                               ` Toomas Soome
2024-09-09  9:29                           ` Volker A. Brandt
2024-09-09  9:49                             ` bronkoo
2024-09-09 11:13                     ` Jorgen Lundman
2024-09-09 12:27                       ` Gea
2024-09-09 14:47                       ` gea
2024-09-09 19:29                         ` Joshua M. Clulow [this message]
2024-12-11  8:47                       ` zt958bjm via illumos-discuss
2024-12-11  8:56                       ` zt958bjm via illumos-discuss
2024-12-11  9:01                         ` zt958bjm via illumos-discuss
2024-12-11 10:09                           ` Jorgen Lundman
2024-12-11 12:17                             ` zt958bjm via illumos-discuss
2024-09-07 14:32                   ` Miles Nordin
2024-08-05 22:45 ` [discuss] shutdown hang with zpools on ISCSI devices John D Groenveld
2024-08-05 22:55   ` Joshua M. Clulow
2024-08-06 15:56 ` Gordon Ross

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