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Mon, 09 Sep 2024 12:29:17 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <17228910420.eEB8eC.492388@composer.illumos.topicbox.com> <17229221550.caeC24Bb.35283@composer.illumos.topicbox.com> <17229261750.4b34C5Ff.10506@composer.illumos.topicbox.com> <17229544470.58aA.943111@composer.illumos.topicbox.com> <2bbc17be-ebb2-4b90-98ef-b804fa57b334@napp-it.org> <71c95212-1882-4739-a00f-a6d8baf1624f@napp-it.org> <9B2D3002-C273-4F79-9CD0-3DEC32AEF485@lundman.net> In-Reply-To: From: "Joshua M. Clulow" Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2024 12:29:06 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [discuss] Illumos future and compatibility with Open-ZFS To: illumos-discuss Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Topicbox-Policy-Reasoning: allow: sender is an admin Topicbox-Message-UUID: d2afe704-6ee1-11ef-b987-3a820a8c7b06 On Mon, 9 Sept 2024 at 07:47, gea@napp-it.org wrote: > some impressions from outside view.. > https://www.reddit.com/r/zfs/comments/1fcohrr/prefer_zfs_stability_of_illumos_zfs_or_best/ This thread is dragging on a bit, so I figured I would try to be a bit more direct: neither discuss list posts, nor straw polls of Internet fora, will move the needle on any of this. It's great to ask questions about the project, and we try to answer them as best we can, as in this thread -- but continuing to press and press just ties up more effort and energy in continuing to engage, lest we then be accused of being a dead project for not answering when asked difficult questions! The crux of the matter is: it's an open source project. People use it when it helps them (as it does ostensibly many people, including several companies who ship illumos in part to use the included ZFS) and people work on it when it helps them enough already to justify adding one or two things that are missing. Choosing an operating system is like asking a thousand different questions, and then being forced to answer all those questions the same way because you can only pick the one; ZFS may be your most important feature, but for others it might be zones, or DTrace, or networking features, or the ability to continue running older binary software, etc. If you're looking for a particular outcome, you need to get involved! Roll up your sleeves and work on it, or pay someone to work on it. To the extent that things get done, that's how. Cheers. PS: a few clarifications: - it's "illumos" (we never capitalise the leading "i") - we consider ourselves totally separate from Solaris at this point - it's "OpenZFS" (no hyphen) - illumos just has "ZFS", not an outdated version of OpenZFS -- Joshua M. Clulow http://blog.sysmgr.org