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It=20 > could take several minutes to run autoconf scripts and then several=20 > seconds to compile some small open source package. If you are=20 > building large number of packages from something like pkgsrc, the=20 > issue is magnified significantly. Even on fast machines with many=20 > CPUs, autoconf inhibits parallelization, as it runs its tests=20 > sequentially and then many packages repeat the same tests over and=20 > over again, it is really bonkers. The issues are quite noticeable=20 > when bulk building many packages.=C2=A0 The Sun Ultra 10 is indeed very old. But my early experiences with=20 Autoconf started in 1993 on a SPARCclassic "server" (running Solaris=20 2.1), which is much slower than that. :-) In order to speed autoconf scripts for tests which always produce the=20 same answer, one can create a 'config.site' script with cached=20 results, and refer to it with the CONFIG_SITE environment variable.=20 If you are bulk-building many packages using similar configuration=20 options, this will result in a huge speed-up. A good thing about autoconf is that it almost always produces the=20 correct answer, and packages depending on autoconf+automake+libtool=20 are extremely consistent and predictable. I have found that projects=20 based on CMake are not nearly as consistent and predictable. 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