Gnus posting charsets

Gnus posting charsets

[codebuger]

Good day, All:

I have emacs 22.0.50 from cvs (gentoo ebuild) and gnus version 5.11.
So, my question:

I read some news groups in koi8-r (fido7), some in iso-8859-1 (comp,
...) and so on. How to teach gnus send messages in different encodings?


I probe gnus-group-posting-charset-alist and other, that works in emacs
21 but not in 22.
If I do:
 (setq mm-coding-system-priorities '(iso-8859-1 koi8-r utf-8))
emacs sends messages in koi8-r when can encode, if no - sends in utf-8.
But I like something like this:
(setq gnus-group-posting-charset-alist  '((".*catap.*" utf-8 (utf-8))
					  (".*fido7.*" koi8-r (koi8-r))))

Can anybody to help me? Thanks.

With best regards, Evgeniy Zamriy.

P.S.: Sorry, my english isn't good. :-(

Re: Gnus posting charsets

[Katsumi Yamaoka]

Well, I might be mistaken, so I thank anyone who corrects me.

>>>>> In <1149584781.421939.250360@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
>>>>>	codebuger@gmail.com wrote:

> Good day, All:

> I have emacs 22.0.50 from cvs (gentoo ebuild) and gnus version 5.11.
> So, my question:

> I read some news groups in koi8-r (fido7), some in iso-8859-1 (comp,
> ...) and so on. How to teach gnus send messages in different encodings?

I think the best way is to make `mm-coding-system-priorities' a
group parameter and have a value per group.  For example:

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
;; Set the default value of `mm-coding-system-priorities'.
(eval-after-load "gnus-sum"
  '(add-to-list
    'gnus-newsgroup-variables
    '(mm-coding-system-priorities
      . '(iso-8859-1 koi8-r utf-8))))

;; Prefer `koi8-r' in the fido7 hierarchy.
(add-to-list
 'gnus-parameters
 '("\\`fido7\\."
   (mm-coding-system-priorities '(koi8-r iso-8859-1 utf-8))))

;; Prefer `utf-8' in the catap hierarchy.
(add-to-list
 'gnus-parameters
 '("\\`catap\\."
   (mm-coding-system-priorities '(utf-8 iso-8859-1))))
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

> I probe gnus-group-posting-charset-alist and other, that works in emacs
> 21 but not in 22.

I cannot recall how it behaved in the past, though.  Now it
decides whether to MIME-encode non-ASCII text in a message
header, and whether to use the 8bit encoding (which appears in
the Content-Transfer-Encoding header) in a message body.  See
the documentation of `gnus-group-posting-charset-alist' for
details.

> If I do:
>  (setq mm-coding-system-priorities '(iso-8859-1 koi8-r utf-8))
> emacs sends messages in koi8-r when can encode, if no - sends in utf-8.
> But I like something like this:
> (setq gnus-group-posting-charset-alist  '((".*catap.*" utf-8 (utf-8))
> 					  (".*fido7.*" koi8-r (koi8-r))))

`gnus-group-posting-charset-alist' contains the element for the
fido7 hierarchy by default.  Therefore, what you need to add
will be the following:

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
(eval-after-load "gnus-msg"
  '(add-to-list
    'gnus-group-posting-charset-alist
    '("^catap\\.[^,]*\\(,[ \t\n]*catap\\.[^,]*\\)*$" utf-8 (utf-8))))
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

> Can anybody to help me? Thanks.

> With best regards, Evgeniy Zamriy.

> P.S.: Sorry, my english isn't good. :-(

Me too. ;-)

Re: Gnus posting charsets

[codebuger]

Good day, All:

Katsumi Yamaoka:

    Thank you, but it doesn't work for me :(


With best regards, Evgeniy Zamriy.

P.S.: Sorry, my english isn't good. :-(

Re: Gnus posting charsets

[Katsumi Yamaoka]

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>>>>> In <1149691274.093917.171800@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
>>>>>	codebuger@gmail.com wrote:

> Thank you, but it doesn't work for me :(

Hmm, how is your message encoded?  I guess the reason the
encoding failed is one of them:

1. You hadn't opened the summary buffer of the group to which
   you were about to post a message then.  Note that the
   following group parameter is effective only when the summary
   buffer of a fido7 newsgroup is opened or just after closing
   that summary buffer, for instance.

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
;; Prefer `koi8-r' in the fido7 hierarchy.
(add-to-list
 'gnus-parameters
 '("\\`fido7\\."
   (mm-coding-system-priorities '(koi8-r iso-8859-1 utf-8))))
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

2. If a message contains Russian text and Ukrainian text, though
   it is unlikely, it cannot be encoded with the koi8-r charset.

3. You crossposted a message to groups including groups which
   weren't specified by `gnus-group-posting-charset-alist'.

I attached a message that I've posted to the fido7.testing group
with the following configuration in my ~/.gnus.el file:

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
;; Set the default value of `mm-coding-system-priorities' which is
;; suitable for the Japanese language environment.
(eval-after-load "gnus-sum"
  '(add-to-list
    'gnus-newsgroup-variables
    '(mm-coding-system-priorities
      . '(iso-8859-1 iso-2022-jp iso-2022-jp-2 shift_jis utf-8))))

;; Prefer `koi8-r' in the fido7 hierarchy.
(add-to-list
 'gnus-parameters
 '("\\`fido7\\."
   (mm-coding-system-priorities '(koi8-r iso-8859-1 utf-8))))
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---


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Re: Gnus posting charsets

[Ivan Boldyrev]

On 9499 day of my life Katsumi Yamaoka wrote:
> 2. If a message contains Russian text and Ukrainian text, though
>    it is unlikely, it cannot be encoded with the koi8-r charset.

It can, because there is actually no support for koi8-u in Emacs.
koi8-u is defined as alias for koi8-r, thus message will be encoded as
koi8-r.

Perhaps OP have problems with pseudographics symbols in his
message.  FIDO inhabitants often use them in message templates.

-- 
Ivan Boldyrev

                                                  Your bytes are bitten.

Re: Gnus posting charsets

[codebuger]

All is ok now, :) Thanks, trouble was in my hands.