Re: Learning gnus for email only

["harel barzilai" <barzilai@gmail.com>]

I mean, basically, it seems that it should be the case that I shouldn't
need to have anything
do deal with pop servers directly, since I'm not using a mail client
e.g. eudora...my earlier
settup was

a) ssh into my shell  via plain text terminal ; run emacs from the
shell ; use rmail from emacs (Which read the spool file ~/INBOX
directly and I didn't need to tell emacs/rmail anything or know
anything about pop

versus now, with the dreamhost "testing 1..2..3.." account where the
incoming email
is not in ~/INBOX mbox format but rather in maildir format, in that
user's ~/Maildir/  the setup
would be:

b)  ssh into my shell  via plain text terminal ; run emacs from the
shell ; use gnus from emacs (Which
I want to just tell it to look at ~/Maildir/ )

so there isn't  that big a difference..my comments were only re my
mostly
ignorance and lack of exp. w/pop...but looking at how similar b) is to
a) it seems like
if I'm happy to just use the old ssh via termianl program, then run
emacs, then gnus wouldn't
need to know about (and I wouldn't need to worry about) the whole world
of pop, any
more than I did when using a) ....is that not correct? if I'm correct,
then I just need
(per my post last night, below) the exact code syntax for telling gnus
to look
at ~/Maildir/ (and to put messages there) when I specify what gnus
calls mail-source
...that's all I (think/hope :-) I need to know...

Harel

harel barzilai wrote:
> Thanks again for the updated gnus tutorial web page...I think I have
> most of the "Set-up"
> figured out except the mail source..and the tutorial has a broken link
> for more information
> on mail sources, unfortunately..
>
> The tutorial in http://my.gnus.org/tutorial/Mail.html#Mail I was able
> to follow until then, and so far I've put in my .gnus.el the following
>
>  (setq user-mail-address "usera@harelbarzilai.org")
> (setq user-full-name "Harel's Test Account")
>
> (add-to-list 'gnus-secondary-select-methods '(nnmaildir ""))
>
> (setq smtpmail-local-domain "harelbarzilai.org")
> (setq smtpmail-sendto-domain "harelbarzilai.org")
> (setq smtpmail-debug-info t) ; only to debug problems
>
> though the internal "CCC Anyone out there who can give more info?"
> comment next to listing "nnmaildir" , made by the author(s) of the
> Tutorial has me a tad worried.. The broken link is to "See Mail Source
> Specifiers (Gnus)," which points at
> http://my.gnus.org/gnus/Mail-Source-Specifiers.html#Mail-Source-Specifiers"
> which doesn't exist. Perhaps I should notify the tutorial authors? In
> any case, the only examples they give for mail-sources are of the form,
>
>  (setq mail-sources '((pop :server "frumple" :user "jrl")))
>
> Let me preface my next and last question by saying: I must confess I've
> been living in a cave as far as pop servers..have just ssh'd into shell
> and used "Mail" or rmail since 1989..emacs fan
> since then (well rmail  plus university's preinstalled software, plus
> now gmail) but never
> ever used outlook eudora etc,  only shell or emacs commands..now my
> question: somewhere in its docs dreamhost tells me "mail.mydomain.com"
> (or in this case "mail.harelbarzilai.org") is the pop mail server..but
> dont' I somehow need to tell gnus to go looking at ~/Maildir/ for mail?
> I'm running gnus from inside emacs, of course and emacs from the shell,
> and the shell I'm accessing via ssh via a simple text terminal
> program..I know the web browser says it can't find
> mail.harelbarzilai.org....so pardon me if I'm confused
> but since dreamhost (though ways I don't know and have never needed to
> know) have all my
> incoming mail delivered to /home/username/Maildir/ also known as
> ~/Maildir/  , for
> each "user" I create for my account, don't I need to just tell gnus to
> go look at ~/Maildir?
> I think by default it looks in (and/or creates) ~/Mail/ ...how can I
> change this to ~/Maildir?
>
> Since the link is broken and I don't know elisp formatting I'd need the
> exact line to copy
> paste into .gnus.el instead of the above "frumple" example... Sorry if
> I'm missing something
> but I've read the my.gnus.org tutorial chapter 7 entirely though
> including 7.2 (and
> earlier portions which gave user-mail-address etc) and need this last
> piece to finish
> the set-up of .gnus.el for reading email, it seems.
> 
> Wishing everyone a safe and fulfilling 2007 :-)
> 
> Harel