gnus-posting-styles confusing

gnus-posting-styles confusing

[आशीष शुक्ल Ashish Shukla]

Hi,

I'm using Gnus v5.11 on GNU Emacs 22.1.1 (Fedora 7). I'm quite
confused regarding the use of "gnus-posting-styles". Can someone post
here an example of "gnus-posting-styles" with also an example to show
that "gnus-posting-styles" really work. I press 'm' key to compose
email messages in Gnus, where "To" field is empty and all other stuff
filled in properly. So what I'm interested in knowing is when does
"gnus-posting-styles" gets activated, after I press "Send" button, or
before I press "m" key.

Thanks in advance,
Ashish Shukla
--
http://wahjava.wordpress.com/

Re: gnus-posting-styles confusing

[Tassilo Horn]

आशीष शुक्ल Ashish Shukla <wahjava@gmail.com> writes:

Hi,

> Can someone post here an example of "gnus-posting-styles" with also an
> example to show that "gnus-posting-styles" really work.

Sure, here're mine.

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
(setq gnus-posting-styles
      `((".*"
         (address "thorn+news@fastmail.fm")
         ("Face" (lambda ()
                   (let ((file (th-random-file "~/.faces" "\\.jpg")))
                     (message "Chose %s as Face file." file)
                     (gnus-face-from-file file))))
         (signature (fortune-to-signature
                     (replace-regexp-in-string
                      "\\.dat$" ""
                      (th-random-file fortune-dir)))))

        (,(rx "infko.")
         (address "heimdall@uni-koblenz.de"))

        (,(rx (or (and (opt "de.") (or "comp." "comm.software."))
                  "gnu."
                  "nntp+Gmane:"))
         (address "tassilo@member.fsf.org"))

        (,(rx "gmane.comp.printing.ghostscript.")
         ;; Posting requires whitelist keyword "artifex" spelled backwards.
         ("X-Fnord" "xefitra"))

        ("de.alt.music.metal"
         (signature (th-now-playing)))

        (,(rx "nnimap+Fastmail:INBOX")
         (address "thorn@fastmail.fm"))

        (,(rx "nnimap+Fastmail:INBOX.news")
         (address "thorn+news@fastmail.fm"))

        (,(rx "nnimap+Fastmail:INBOX.FSF")
         (address "tassilo@member.fsf.org"))

        (,(rx "nnimap+Fastmail:INBOX.mailinglists."
              (or "emms-patches"
                  "stumpwm-devel"
                  "bbdb-info"
                  "sbcl-devel"
                  "openchrome"))
         (address "tassilo@member.fsf.org"))

        (,(rx"nnimap+Fastmail:INBOX.mailinglists."
              (or "d-barf"
                  "tsdh-fans"
                  "dtofans"))
         (address "thorn@fastmail.fm"))

        (,(rx "nnimap+Fastmail:INBOX.uni")
         (address "heimdall@uni-koblenz.de"))))
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---


> I press 'm' key to compose email messages in Gnus, where "To" field is
> empty and all other stuff filled in properly. So what I'm interested
> in knowing is when does "gnus-posting-styles" gets activated, after I
> press "Send" button, or before I press "m" key.

None of both.  They are used after you press `m' to initialize the mail
or posting buffer.

Bye,
Tassilo
-- 
GNU Emacs is a text editor for Über-Geeks.

Re: gnus-posting-styles confusing

[Slackrat]

आशीष शुक्ल Ashish Shukla <wahjava@gmail.com> writes:

> Hi,
>
> I'm using Gnus v5.11 on GNU Emacs 22.1.1 (Fedora 7). I'm quite
> confused regarding the use of "gnus-posting-styles". Can someone post
> here an example of "gnus-posting-styles" with also an example to show
> that "gnus-posting-styles" really work. I press 'm' key to compose
> email messages in Gnus, where "To" field is empty and all other stuff
> filled in properly. So what I'm interested in knowing is when does
> "gnus-posting-styles" gets activated, after I press "Send" button, or
> before I press "m" key.
>

...and here's mine - Linux Slack 11 with Gnus 5.11 on Emacs 22.1


I can assure you that it works


;; ##################
;; POSTING HEADERS ##
;; ##################
;;

;; Set some default email and news headers
(setq message-default-mail-headers
"Fcc: ~/Mail/outbox")

(setq message-default-news-headers
"Fcc: ~/News/sent.news.archive")

(setq message-required-mail-headers
      (nconc message-required-mail-headers
             (list '(Face . (lambda ()
                              (gnus-face-from-file "~/.signature/facesmtp.jpg"))))))

(setq message-required-news-headers
      (nconc message-required-news-headers
             (list '(Face . (lambda ()
                              (gnus-face-from-file "~/.signature/facenntp.jpg"))))))

(setq gnus-posting-styles
      '((".*"
	 (name mail-user-name)
	 ("X-Guarantee" "This email is certified to have been free
             of UCE and any other Malicious, Harmful or
             Annoying Content when originally sent by
             <user>@azurservers.com - Azurservers post
             SPF records and do not condone SPAM type
             emails")
	 (signature-file "~/.signature/bill")
	 ("X-Homepage" "http://azurservers.com")
	 ("X-Operating-System" "Slackware GNU/Linux")
	 ("X-Azurservers-AuthNo" "Registered as AZSV bghkd8332277")
	 (organization "Not very much!"))

;; USENET
;;=======

	 ("rec*"
	 (signature-file "~/.signature/davey")
	 (name "Davey Crockett")
	 (address "dav4Qeycrockett@azurservers.com")
	 ("Fcc" "~/Mail/sent-rec")
         )

	 ("gnu.emacs*"
	 (signature-file "~/.signature/slackrat")
	 (name "Slackrat")
	 (address "s4Qlackrat@azurservers.com")
	 ("Fcc" "~/Mail/sent-gnu"))

;; MAILING LISTS
;;==============
	 ("tlug"
	 ("To" "tlug@ss.org")
	 (signature-file "~/.signature/slackrat")
	 (name "SlackRat")
	 (address "slackrat4Q@azurservers.com")
	 ("Fcc" "~/Mail/sent-tlug")
         )

	 ("xitami"
	 ("To" "Xitami Users General Discussion <xitami@lists.xitami.org>")
	 (signature-file "~/.signature/slackrat")
	 (name "SlackRat")
	 (address "slackrat4Q@azurservers.com")
	 ("Fcc" "~/Mail/sent-xitami")
         )

;; INDIVIDUALS
;;============

         ("sublet-nicola"
	 ("To" "Nicola Nunu <bought@hotmail.it>")
	 (signature-file "~/.signature/bill")
	 (name "William E.Henderson")
	 (address "billhenderson@azurservers.com")
	 ("Fcc" "~/Mail/sent-sublet-nicola")
	 ("Bcc" "inconnu@azurservers.com")
         )

 	 ("tanya"
	 ("To" "Tanya Kim Henderson <tanyah@ualberta.ca>")
	 (signature-file "~/.signature/dad")
	 (name "Bill Henderson")
	 (address "billhenderson@azurservers.com")
	 ("Fcc" "~/Mail/sent-tanya")
	 ("Bcc" "inconnu@azurservers.com")
         )

 	 ("gaukroger"
	 ("To" "Kath et John <john.gaukroger@virgin.net>")
	 (signature-file "~/.signature/bill")
	 (name "Bill Henderson")
	 (address "billhenderson@azurservers.com")
	 ("Fcc" "~/Mail/sent-gaukroger")
	 ("Bcc" "inconnu@azurservers.com")
         )
))


-- 
SlackRat - No 4Q to Reply
-
WARNING: 
It is  dangerous to  your Health  to be Right  when the  Government is
Wrong

Re: gnus-posting-styles confusing

[आशीष शुक्ल Ashish Shukla]

Slackrat \/\/|20+3:
> आशीष शुक्ल Ashish Shukla <wahjava@gmail.com> writes:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I'm using Gnus v5.11 on GNU Emacs 22.1.1 (Fedora 7). I'm quite
> > confused regarding the use of "gnus-posting-styles". Can someone post
> > here an example of "gnus-posting-styles" with also an example to show
> > that "gnus-posting-styles" really work. I press 'm' key to compose
> > email messages in Gnus, where "To" field is empty and all other stuff
> > filled in properly. So what I'm interested in knowing is when does
> > "gnus-posting-styles" gets activated, after I press "Send" button, or
> > before I press "m" key.
> >
>
> ...and here's mine - Linux Slack 11 with Gnus 5.11 on Emacs 22.1
>
>
> I can assure you that it works
>
>
> ;; ##################
> ;; POSTING HEADERS ##
> ;; ##################
> ;;
>
> ;; Set some default email and news headers
> (setq message-default-mail-headers
> "Fcc: ~/Mail/outbox")
>
> (setq message-default-news-headers
> "Fcc: ~/News/sent.news.archive")
>
> (setq message-required-mail-headers
>       (nconc message-required-mail-headers
>              (list '(Face . (lambda ()
>                               (gnus-face-from-file "~/.signature/facesmtp.jpg"))))))
>
> (setq message-required-news-headers
>       (nconc message-required-news-headers
>              (list '(Face . (lambda ()
>                               (gnus-face-from-file "~/.signature/facenntp.jpg"))))))
>
> (setq gnus-posting-styles
>       '((".*"
> 	 (name mail-user-name)
> 	 ("X-Guarantee" "This email is certified to have been free
>              of UCE and any other Malicious, Harmful or
>              Annoying Content when originally sent by
>              <user>@azurservers.com - Azurservers post
>              SPF records and do not condone SPAM type
>              emails")
> 	 (signature-file "~/.signature/bill")
> 	 ("X-Homepage" "http://azurservers.com")
> 	 ("X-Operating-System" "Slackware GNU/Linux")
> 	 ("X-Azurservers-AuthNo" "Registered as AZSV bghkd8332277")
> 	 (organization "Not very much!"))
>
> ;; USENET
> ;;=======
>
> 	 ("rec*"
> 	 (signature-file "~/.signature/davey")
> 	 (name "Davey Crockett")
> 	 (address "dav4Qeycrockett@azurservers.com")
> 	 ("Fcc" "~/Mail/sent-rec")
>          )
>
> 	 ("gnu.emacs*"
> 	 (signature-file "~/.signature/slackrat")
> 	 (name "Slackrat")
> 	 (address "s4Qlackrat@azurservers.com")
> 	 ("Fcc" "~/Mail/sent-gnu"))
>
> ;; MAILING LISTS
> ;;==============
> 	 ("tlug"
> 	 ("To" "tlug@ss.org")
> 	 (signature-file "~/.signature/slackrat")
> 	 (name "SlackRat")
> 	 (address "slackrat4Q@azurservers.com")
> 	 ("Fcc" "~/Mail/sent-tlug")
>          )
>
> 	 ("xitami"
> 	 ("To" "Xitami Users General Discussion <xitami@lists.xitami.org>")
> 	 (signature-file "~/.signature/slackrat")
> 	 (name "SlackRat")
> 	 (address "slackrat4Q@azurservers.com")
> 	 ("Fcc" "~/Mail/sent-xitami")
>          )
>
> ;; INDIVIDUALS
> ;;============
>
>          ("sublet-nicola"
> 	 ("To" "Nicola Nunu <bought@hotmail.it>")
> 	 (signature-file "~/.signature/bill")
> 	 (name "William E.Henderson")
> 	 (address "billhenderson@azurservers.com")
> 	 ("Fcc" "~/Mail/sent-sublet-nicola")
> 	 ("Bcc" "inconnu@azurservers.com")
>          )
>
>  	 ("tanya"
> 	 ("To" "Tanya Kim Henderson <tanyah@ualberta.ca>")
> 	 (signature-file "~/.signature/dad")
> 	 (name "Bill Henderson")
> 	 (address "billhenderson@azurservers.com")
> 	 ("Fcc" "~/Mail/sent-tanya")
> 	 ("Bcc" "inconnu@azurservers.com")
>          )
>
>  	 ("gaukroger"
> 	 ("To" "Kath et John <john.gaukroger@virgin.net>")
> 	 (signature-file "~/.signature/bill")
> 	 (name "Bill Henderson")
> 	 (address "billhenderson@azurservers.com")
> 	 ("Fcc" "~/Mail/sent-gaukroger")
> 	 ("Bcc" "inconnu@azurservers.com")
>          )
> ))

Thanks for the reply. I've already seen your ".gnus" when searching
for "gnus-posting-styles" in Google Groups. What I am expecting is
what keystrokes do you press to activate the "gnus-posting-styles". It
will be great if you post a sample conversation.

>
>
> --
> SlackRat - No 4Q to Reply
> -
> WARNING:
> It is  dangerous to  your Health  to be Right  when the  Government is
> Wrong

Thanks
Ashish Shukla
--
http://wahjava.wordpress.com/

Re: gnus-posting-styles confusing

[Slackrat]

आशीष शुक्ल Ashish Shukla <wahjava@gmail.com> writes:

> Slackrat \/\/|20+3:

>> ...and here's mine - Linux Slack 11 with Gnus 5.11 on Emacs 22.1
>>
>>
>> I can assure you that it works
>>
>>
>> ;; ##################
>> ;; POSTING HEADERS ##
>> ;; ##################
>> ;;
>>
>> ;; Set some default email and news headers
>> (setq message-default-mail-headers
>> "Fcc: ~/Mail/outbox")
>>
>> (setq message-default-news-headers
>> "Fcc: ~/News/sent.news.archive")
>>
>> (setq message-required-mail-headers
>>       (nconc message-required-mail-headers
>>              (list '(Face . (lambda ()
>>                               (gnus-face-from-file "~/.signature/facesmtp.jpg"))))))
>>
>> (setq message-required-news-headers
>>       (nconc message-required-news-headers
>>              (list '(Face . (lambda ()
>>                               (gnus-face-from-file "~/.signature/facenntp.jpg"))))))
>>
>> (setq gnus-posting-styles
>>       '((".*"
>> 	 (name mail-user-name)
>> 	 ("X-Guarantee" "This email is certified to have been free
>>              of UCE and any other Malicious, Harmful or
>>              Annoying Content when originally sent by
>>              <user>@azurservers.com - Azurservers post
>>              SPF records and do not condone SPAM type
>>              emails")
>> 	 (signature-file "~/.signature/bill")
>> 	 ("X-Homepage" "http://azurservers.com")
>> 	 ("X-Operating-System" "Slackware GNU/Linux")
>> 	 ("X-Azurservers-AuthNo" "Registered as AZSV bghkd8332277")
>> 	 (organization "Not very much!"))
>>
>> ;; USENET
>> ;;=======
>>
>> 	 ("rec*"
>> 	 (signature-file "~/.signature/davey")
>> 	 (name "Davey Crockett")
>> 	 (address "dav4Qeycrockett@azurservers.com")
>> 	 ("Fcc" "~/Mail/sent-rec")
>>          )
>>
>> 	 ("gnu.emacs*"
>> 	 (signature-file "~/.signature/slackrat")
>> 	 (name "Slackrat")
>> 	 (address "s4Qlackrat@azurservers.com")
>> 	 ("Fcc" "~/Mail/sent-gnu"))
>>
>> ;; MAILING LISTS
>> ;;==============
>> 	 ("tlug"
>> 	 ("To" "tlug@ss.org")
>> 	 (signature-file "~/.signature/slackrat")
>> 	 (name "SlackRat")
>> 	 (address "slackrat4Q@azurservers.com")
>> 	 ("Fcc" "~/Mail/sent-tlug")
>>          )
>>
>> 	 ("xitami"
>> 	 ("To" "Xitami Users General Discussion <xitami@lists.xitami.org>")
>> 	 (signature-file "~/.signature/slackrat")
>> 	 (name "SlackRat")
>> 	 (address "slackrat4Q@azurservers.com")
>> 	 ("Fcc" "~/Mail/sent-xitami")
>>          )
>>
>> ;; INDIVIDUALS
>> ;;============
>>
>>          ("sublet-nicola"
>> 	 ("To" "Nicola Nunu <bought@hotmail.it>")
>> 	 (signature-file "~/.signature/bill")
>> 	 (name "William E.Henderson")
>> 	 (address "billhenderson@azurservers.com")
>> 	 ("Fcc" "~/Mail/sent-sublet-nicola")
>> 	 ("Bcc" "inconnu@azurservers.com")
>>          )
>>
>>  	 ("tanya"
>> 	 ("To" "Tanya Kim Henderson <tanyah@ualberta.ca>")
>> 	 (signature-file "~/.signature/dad")
>> 	 (name "Bill Henderson")
>> 	 (address "billhenderson@azurservers.com")
>> 	 ("Fcc" "~/Mail/sent-tanya")
>> 	 ("Bcc" "inconnu@azurservers.com")
>>          )
>>
>>  	 ("gaukroger"
>> 	 ("To" "Kath et John <john.gaukroger@virgin.net>")
>> 	 (signature-file "~/.signature/bill")
>> 	 (name "Bill Henderson")
>> 	 (address "billhenderson@azurservers.com")
>> 	 ("Fcc" "~/Mail/sent-gaukroger")
>> 	 ("Bcc" "inconnu@azurservers.com")
>>          )
>> ))
>
> Thanks for the reply. I've already seen your ".gnus" when searching
> for "gnus-posting-styles" in Google Groups. What I am expecting is
> what keystrokes do you press to activate the "gnus-posting-styles". It
> will be great if you post a sample conversation.

I'm not 100 per cent sure what you want, but hopefully the following
will be of some assistance to you:

The above simply resides in your ".gnus" file in your home directory
to enable you to set the headers correctly when you:

(a) respond to an email or item in a newsgroup

(b) initialize an email or article in a newsgroup

Newsgroups and emails whilst almost identical are treated somewhat
differently.

To respond to an email or a newsgroup article, simply press 'f" to
reply without quoting the original email, or "F" to respond with the
text of the original email quoted in your reply. 

To initiate a new newsgroup item, press "a" - for Article

To initiate a new email, press "m" - for Mail

In either instance, if you are in the group buffer with the cursor
positioned over a group for which special header rules apply, the
headers will be completed automatically.

If you invoke "m" or "a" when you are not in a group with special
headers defined, the default or standard headers will be included but
you will have to supply any missing ones manually.


-- 
SlackRat - No 4Q to Reply
-
WARNING: 
It is  dangerous to  your Health  to be Right  when the  Government is
Wrong

Re: gnus-posting-styles confusing

[Hadron]

Tassilo Horn <tassilo@member.fsf.org> writes:

>
> Sure, here're mine.
>
> (setq gnus-posting-styles
>       `((".*"
>          (address "thorn+news@fastmail.fm")
>          ("Face" (lambda ()
>                    (let ((file (th-random-file "~/.faces" "\\.jpg")))
>                      (message "Chose %s as Face file." file)
>                      (gnus-face-from-file file))))
>          (signature (fortune-to-signature
>                      (replace-regexp-in-string
>                       "\\.dat$" ""
>                       (th-random-file fortune-dir)))))
>
>         (,(rx "infko.")
>          (address "heimdall@uni-koblenz.de"))
>
>         (,(rx (or (and (opt "de.") (or "comp." "comm.software."))
>                   "gnu."
>                   "nntp+Gmane:"))
>          (address "tassilo@member.fsf.org"))
>

*snip*

>
>         (,(rx "nnimap+Fastmail:INBOX.uni")
>          (address "heimdall@uni-koblenz.de"))))
>

Here's an extract from mine which will give you some more ideas,

	  (
	   ,(rx(or "linux" "emacs" "programming" "sport" "embedded" "physics"))
;;	   (x-face-file "~/.xfaces/hadron.xface")
	   (face (gnus-face-from-file "~/.xfaces/penguin.jpg"))
;;	   (face (gnus-face-from-file "~/.xfaces/quark.jpg"))
	   (organization "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quark")
	   (eval (setq pgg-gpg-user-id "5C******"))
	   (eval(setq gnushush-user-agent-header (quote real)))
	   (signature-file "~/.sigs/hadron")
	   )

Re: gnus-posting-styles confusing

[आशीष शुक्ल Ashish Shukla]

Tassilo Horn \/\/|20+3:
> आशीष शुक्ल Ashish Shukla <wahjava@gmail.com> writes:
>
> Hi,
>
> > Can someone post here an example of "gnus-posting-styles" with also an
> > example to show that "gnus-posting-styles" really work.
>
> Sure, here're mine.
>
> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
> (setq gnus-posting-styles
>       `((".*"
>          (address "thorn+news@fastmail.fm")
>          ("Face" (lambda ()
>                    (let ((file (th-random-file "~/.faces" "\\.jpg")))
>                      (message "Chose %s as Face file." file)
>                      (gnus-face-from-file file))))
>          (signature (fortune-to-signature
>                      (replace-regexp-in-string
>                       "\\.dat$" ""
>                       (th-random-file fortune-dir)))))
>
>         (,(rx "infko.")
>          (address "heimdall@uni-koblenz.de"))
>
>         (,(rx (or (and (opt "de.") (or "comp." "comm.software."))
>                   "gnu."
>                   "nntp+Gmane:"))
>          (address "tassilo@member.fsf.org"))
>
>         (,(rx "gmane.comp.printing.ghostscript.")
>          ;; Posting requires whitelist keyword "artifex" spelled backwards.
>          ("X-Fnord" "xefitra"))
>
>         ("de.alt.music.metal"
>          (signature (th-now-playing)))
>
>         (,(rx "nnimap+Fastmail:INBOX")
>          (address "thorn@fastmail.fm"))
>
>         (,(rx "nnimap+Fastmail:INBOX.news")
>          (address "thorn+news@fastmail.fm"))
>
>         (,(rx "nnimap+Fastmail:INBOX.FSF")
>          (address "tassilo@member.fsf.org"))
>
>         (,(rx "nnimap+Fastmail:INBOX.mailinglists."
>               (or "emms-patches"
>                   "stumpwm-devel"
>                   "bbdb-info"
>                   "sbcl-devel"
>                   "openchrome"))
>          (address "tassilo@member.fsf.org"))
>
>         (,(rx"nnimap+Fastmail:INBOX.mailinglists."
>               (or "d-barf"
>                   "tsdh-fans"
>                   "dtofans"))
>          (address "thorn@fastmail.fm"))
>
>         (,(rx "nnimap+Fastmail:INBOX.uni")
>          (address "heimdall@uni-koblenz.de"))))
> --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
>
>
> > I press 'm' key to compose email messages in Gnus, where "To" field is
> > empty and all other stuff filled in properly. So what I'm interested
> > in knowing is when does "gnus-posting-styles" gets activated, after I
> > press "Send" button, or before I press "m" key.
>
> None of both.  They are used after you press `m' to initialize the mail
> or posting buffer.

Thanks to all for the replies.

When I press "m" in "*Group*" buffer in Gnus, a buffer comes with
following text already filled in

-- begin buffer --
To:
Subject:
From: wahjava@gmail.com (Ashish Shukla आशीष शुक्ल)
Gcc: nnmaildir:sent-mail
--text follows this line--
<#secure method=pgpmime mode=sign>
-- end bufer --

Now, I've to fill the recipient's address in "To" field. So now tell
me how comes is "gnus-posting-styles" thing gets invoked, when I've
not filled in "To" field. Did you mean that it gets invoked after I
fill "To" field, hmm.. ? or I've to add some more stuff in my ".gnus",
hmm... ? If required I'll paste my ".gnus" here.

And one more thing I don't have any NNTP subscription, so I don't use
Gnus for reading any newsgroups. I use Gnus only for reading my mails.

>
> Bye,
> Tassilo
> --
> GNU Emacs is a text editor for Über-Geeks.

Thanks
Ashish Shukla
--
http://wahjava.wordpress.com/

Re: gnus-posting-styles confusing

[Tassilo Horn]

आशीष शुक्ल Ashish Shukla <wahjava@gmail.com> writes:

Hi,

>> None of both.  They are used after you press `m' to initialize the
>> mail or posting buffer.

[...]

> When I press "m" in "*Group*" buffer in Gnus, a buffer comes with
> following text already filled in
>
> -- begin buffer --
> To:
> Subject:
> From: wahjava@gmail.com (Ashish Shukla आशीष शुक्ल)
> Gcc: nnmaildir:sent-mail
> --text follows this line--
> <#secure method=pgpmime mode=sign>
> -- end bufer --
>
> Now, I've to fill the recipient's address in "To" field. So now tell
> me how comes is "gnus-posting-styles" thing gets invoked, when I've
> not filled in "To" field. Did you mean that it gets invoked after I
> fill "To" field, hmm.. ?

No.

> or I've to add some more stuff in my ".gnus", hmm... ? If required
> I'll paste my ".gnus" here.

I don't understand what you want to do with posting styles.  You
normally use them to initialize the mail or posting buffer based on the
group you are in.  What do you want to achieve?

Bye,
Tassilo
-- 
The  desire  to  be  rewarded  for one's  creativity  does  not  justify
depriving  the world  in  general of  all  or part  of that  creativity.
(Richard M. Stallman)

Re: gnus-posting-styles confusing

[आशीष शुक्ल Ashish Shukla]

Tassilo Horn \/\/|20+3:
[...]
>
> I don't understand what you want to do with posting styles.  You
> normally use them to initialize the mail or posting buffer based on the
> group you are in.  What do you want to achieve?

I've 2 mail addresses, one I use for mailing lists, and other I use
for rest of the communications. So if I'm sending mail to a mailing
list, it should go from my email address ("mailing list" one),
otherwise it will go from my default email address. So, is this
possible using "gnus-posting-styles" ?

>
> Bye,
> Tassilo
> --
> The  desire  to  be  rewarded  for one's  creativity  does  not  justify
> depriving  the world  in  general of  all  or part  of that  creativity.
> (Richard M. Stallman)

Thanks
Ashish Shukla
--
http://wahjava.wordpress.com/

Re: gnus-posting-styles confusing

[Exal de Jesus Garcia Carrillo]

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1

आशीष शुक्ल Ashish Shukla <wahjava@gmail.com> em gnu.emacs.gnus escreveu :


> I've 2 mail addresses, one I use for mailing lists, and other I use
> for rest of the communications. So if I'm sending mail to a mailing
> list, it should go from my email address ("mailing list" one),
> otherwise it will go from my default email address. So, is this
> possible using "gnus-posting-styles" ?


Hey Ashish, what I use for this is:

 (setq gnus-posting-styles
       `((".*"
         (name user-full-name)
         (address "exal@gmx.de")
         (organization "The GNU Emacs Church")
         ("X-Accept-Language" "es, en, pt")
         ("X-GPG" "0x5251B462")
         ("X-GPG-FINGERPRINT" "B17A 8AD9 8B64 DC6C 7F92  BBF7 A199 B1A1 5251 B462")
         ("X-Home-Page" "http://exal.nipl.net")
         ("User-Agent" exal-gnus-version)
         (x-face-file "~/emacs-stuff/xface"))

                 (,(rx "nnmbox:mail.gnu")
         (address "exal@gnu.org")
         (organization "GNU Project")
         ("Reply-To" "Exal de Jesus Garcia Carrillo <exal@gnu.org>")
         (signature-file "~/emacs-stuff/signature-gnu"))))



Note that I also have two mail accounts, if I'm replying in mail.gnu,
reply with exal@gnu.org

On the same way you can specify whatever you want, for example, your
mailing list, an hypotetic example:

(,(rx "nnmbox.mailing.list.foo")
      (addres "foo@bar.com")
      (.........))



I hope that this help.


regards.



- -- 
Spam protection: 
In my e-mail remplace the words `no-spam' with `exal'.
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux)
Comment: Processed by Mailcrypt 3.5.8+ <http://mailcrypt.sourceforge.net/>

iD8DBQFGwHXCoZmxoVJRtGIRAuFAAJ9EVnzfhEE9m+HutV1n0ZZfo3uycQCfW/p9
NvooGczrCKN9lDwuwSB4Smk=
=W6zS
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Re: gnus-posting-styles confusing

[Sivaram Neelakantan]

आशीष शुक्ल Ashish Shukla <wahjava@gmail.com> writes:


[...]

> I've 2 mail addresses, one I use for mailing lists, and other I use
> for rest of the communications. So if I'm sending mail to a mailing
> list, it should go from my email address ("mailing list" one),
> otherwise it will go from my default email address. So, is this
> possible using "gnus-posting-styles" ?
>

[...]

I have done something similar, please see 

http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/wiki/GnusMSMTP

Just replace the newsgroup match regex with something of your specific
mail folder or user name matches.

Did that help?

 sivaram
 -- 

Re: gnus-posting-styles confusing

[Tassilo Horn]

आशीष शुक्ल Ashish Shukla <wahjava@gmail.com> writes:

Hi,

> I've 2 mail addresses, one I use for mailing lists, and other I use
> for rest of the communications. So if I'm sending mail to a mailing
> list, it should go from my email address ("mailing list" one),
> otherwise it will go from my default email address. So, is this
> possible using "gnus-posting-styles" ?

Yes, that's exactly what they are for.  Let's assume you have the
following groups for the mailing lists:

          mail.lists.one
          mail.lists.two
          ...
          mail.lists.nine

Then I'd suggest to use these posting styles.

,----
| (setq gnus-posting-styles
|       '(("."
|          (address "default@address.invalid"))
|         ("mail\\.lists\\."
|          (address "mailinglist@address.invalid"))))
`----

Bye,
Tassilo
-- 
The  desire  to  be  rewarded  for one's  creativity  does  not  justify
depriving  the world  in  general of  all  or part  of that  creativity.
(Richard M. Stallman)

Re: gnus-posting-styles confusing

[Adam Sjøgren]

On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 19:21:40 +0200, Tassilo wrote:

> ,----
> | (setq gnus-posting-styles
> |       '(("."
> |          (address "default@address.invalid"))
> |         ("mail\\.lists\\."
> |          (address "mailinglist@address.invalid"))))
> `----

The only trick that Ashish Shukla then needs is to know is that if you
want to write a _new_ message to a mailinglist, there are three (at
least) ways to get the appropriate posting styles applied:

 * Enter the mailing list group, then press m

 * With point on the group in the Group buffer, press C-u m

 * Or, press C-u 1 m to get prompted for the group with which to get the
   matching posting-styles


  Best regards,

     Adam

-- 
 "Be?"                                                        Adam Sjøgren
 "Be. Be period. Is."                                    asjo@koldfront.dk

Re: gnus-posting-styles confusing

[आशीष शुक्ल Ashish Shukla]

Adam Sjøgren \/\/|20+3:
> On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 19:21:40 +0200, Tassilo wrote:
>
> > ,----
> > | (setq gnus-posting-styles
> > |       '(("."
> > |          (address "default@address.invalid"))
> > |         ("mail\\.lists\\."
> > |          (address "mailinglist@address.invalid"))))
> > `----
>
> The only trick that Ashish Shukla then needs is to know is that if you
> want to write a _new_ message to a mailinglist, there are three (at
> least) ways to get the appropriate posting styles applied:
>
>  * Enter the mailing list group, then press m
>
>  * With point on the group in the Group buffer, press C-u m
>
>  * Or, press C-u 1 m to get prompted for the group with which to get the
>    matching posting-styles

Thanks for these keystrokes. I'm able to get "gnus-posting-styles"
working on my box.

>
>
>   Best regards,
>
>      Adam
>
> --
>  "Be?"                                                        Adam Sjøgren
>  "Be. Be period. Is."                                    asjo@koldfront.dk

Ashish Shukla
--
http://wahjava.wordpress.com/

Re: gnus-posting-styles confusing

[आशीष शुक्ल Ashish Shukla]

Tassilo Horn \/\/|20+3:
> आशीष शुक्ल Ashish Shukla <wahjava@gmail.com> writes:
>
> Hi,

Hi,

First of all apologies for late reply.

>
> > I've 2 mail addresses, one I use for mailing lists, and other I use
> > for rest of the communications. So if I'm sending mail to a mailing
> > list, it should go from my email address ("mailing list" one),
> > otherwise it will go from my default email address. So, is this
> > possible using "gnus-posting-styles" ?
>
> Yes, that's exactly what they are for.  Let's assume you have the
> following groups for the mailing lists:
>
>           mail.lists.one
>           mail.lists.two
>           ...
>           mail.lists.nine

How're those groups created ? Are you using group mail splitting ?
Hmm..

Anyways, following is my .gnus.

-- begin .gnus --
(defun its-gnu()  't)

(defun my-gnus-user-agent()
  "My custom User-Agent field"
  (concat (format "Gnus/%s (Oort %s) "
				  (gnus-continuum-version (gnus-version)) gnus-version-number)
		  (cond ((its-gnu) (format "Emacs/%s " emacs-version))
				(t (format "XEmacs/%s " emacs-program-version)))
		  (cond ((eq window-system 'gtk)' "(GTK)")
				(t (format "(%s)" system-configuration)))))

(require 'cl)
(defun match-from-list(list value)
  "Returns the index of value in the list"
  (let ((n 0))
	(dolist (var list -1)
	  (if
		  (string-equal (format "%s" value) (format "%s" var))
		  (return n) (setq n (+ n 1)))
	  )))

(setq mail-yank-prefix "| ")
(setq user-full-name "Ashish Shukla आशीष शुक्ल")
(setq user-mail-address "wahjava@remove.it.human.gmail.com")
(setq gnus-visible-headers
	  (concat "^\\(From:\\|Subject:\\|Date:\\|Followup-To:\\|X-Newsreader:
\\|To:\\|"
			  "User-Agent:\\|X-Mailer:\\|Organization:\\|Newsgroups:\\)"))

;;; only default posting style for now
(setq gnus-posting-styles
	  '(
		(".*"
		 ("From" "wahjava@remove.it.human.gmail.com (Ashish Shukla आशीष
शुक्ल)")
		 ("Organization" "/\\/0/\\/3")
		 ("X-PGP" "762E5E74")
		 ("PGP" "762E5E74")
		 ("X-PGP-FP" "1E00 4679 77E4 F8EE 2E4B 56F2 1F2F 8410 762E 5E74")
		 ("X-Attribution" "आशीष")
		 ("X-Mailer" (my-gnus-user-agent))
		 (signature-file "~/.signature"))
		))

(setq gnus-message-archive-group "nnmaildir:sent-mail")


(setq message-default-headers
	  (with-temp-buffer
		(insert "X-Face: ")
		(insert-file-contents "~/.xface")
		(buffer-string)))

(setq message-required-mail-headers
	  (nconc message-required-mail-headers
			 (list '(Face . (lambda () (gnus-convert-png-to-face "~/Pictures/
face.png"))))))

(setq mail-sources '((maildir :path "~/Maildir/")))
(setq gnus-select-method '(nnnil))
(setq gnus-secondary-select-methods
	  '((nnmaildir ""
				   (directory "~/mail")
				   (get-new-mail t))))

(setq nnmail-split-methods
	  '(("sent-mail" "^From:.*wahjava\\(?:.ml\\)?
@remove[.]it[.]human[.]gmail[.]com")
	    ("lists" "^List-Id: ")
	    ("inbox" "")))

(require 'pgg)
(autoload 'pgg-encrypt-region "pgg" "Encrypt the current region." t)
(autoload 'pgg-encrypt-symmetric-region "pgg"
  "Encrypt the current region with symmetric algorithm." t)
(autoload 'pgg-decrypt-region "pgg" "Decrypt the current region." t)
(autoload 'pgg-sign-region "pgg" "Sign the current region." t)
(autoload 'pgg-verify-region "pgg" "Verify the current region." t)
(autoload 'pgg-insert-key "pgg" "Insert the ASCII armored public key."
t)
(autoload 'pgg-snarf-keys-region "pgg" "Import the public keys in the
current region." t)

;; verify/decrypt only if mml knows about the protocol used
(setq mm-verify-option 'known)
(setq mm-decrypt-option 'known)


;; Here we make button for the multipart
(setq gnus-buttonized-mime-types '("multipart/encrypted" "multipart/
signed"))

;; Tells Gnus to inline the part
(eval-after-load "mm-decode"
  '(add-to-list 'mm-inlined-types "application/pgp$"))

;; Tell Gnus how to display the part when it is requested
(eval-after-load "mm-decode"
  '(add-to-list 'mm-inline-media-tests '("application/pgp$"
										 mm-inline-text identity)))

;; Tell Gnus not to wait for a request, just display the thing
;; straight away.
(eval-after-load "mm-decode"
  '(add-to-list 'mm-automatic-display "application/pgp$"))

;; But don't display the signatures please.
(eval-after-load "mm-decode"
  (quote (setq mm-automatic-display (remove "application/pgp-
signature"
											mm-automatic-display))))
;; auto-sign all outgoing messages
(add-hook 'gnus-message-setup-hook 'mml-secure-message-sign-pgpmime)

(require 'supercite)
(setq sc-preferred-header-style (match-from-list sc-rewrite-header-
list '(sc-header-verbose)))
(setq message-cite-function 'sc-cite-original)
(setq sc-citation-leader "")
(setq sc-citation-delimiter "|")
(setq sc-nested-citation-p t)
(setq sc-electric-references-p t)
(setq sc-reference-tag-string  ",--- ")
(setq sc-fixup-whitespace-p t)
(setq sc-blank-lines-after-headers nil)
(setq sc-cite-blank-lines-p nil)
(setq sc-auto-fill-region-p nil)

										; display smilies
(setq gnus-treat-display-smileys t)

'(toolbar-news-reader (quote gnus))
'(toolbar-mail-reader (quote vm))
'(mail-user-agent (quote my-gnus-user-agent))
'(message-send-mail-function quote 'message-send-mail-with-sendmail)
'(message-fromh-style (quote parens))
'(mail-from-style (quote parens))
'(mail-specify-envelope-from t)
'(sc-preferred-attribution-list (quote ("sc-lastchoice" "x-
attribution" "firstname" "initials" "lastname")))

;;; Local Variables:
;;; mode: emacs-lisp
;;; tab-width: 4
;;; End:
;;; vim:filetype=lisp
-- end .gnus --

I just started using Gnus 3-4 week back. I share my "maildir" style
mailbox with 2 other MUA's also namely, mutt, and Kmail. And following
is what I do in mutt to make sure all my mails to mailing lists go
from my mailing list address and should save in "lists" maildir.

-- begin excerpt --
lists freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
subscribe freebsd-questions@freebsd.org

lists questions@freebsd.org
subscribe questions@freebsd.org

save-hook '~l' +lists

send-hook '~l' 'my_hdr from: आशीष शुक्ल Ashish Shukla
<wahjava.ml@remove.it.human.gmail.com>'
-- end excerpt --

>
> Then I'd suggest to use these posting styles.
>
> ,----
> | (setq gnus-posting-styles
> |       '(("."
> |          (address "default@address.invalid"))
> |         ("mail\\.lists\\."
> |          (address "mailinglist@address.invalid"))))
> `----]

So please now tell me what to do, to have my mails to mailing list
should have "From" field set to correct address.

>
> Bye,
> Tassilo
> --
> The  desire  to  be  rewarded  for one's  creativity  does  not  justify
> depriving  the world  in  general of  all  or part  of that  creativity.
> (Richard M. Stallman)

Thanks to all for replying,
Ashish Shukla
--
http://wahjava.wordpress.com/

Re: gnus-posting-styles confusing

[Tassilo Horn]

आशीष शुक्ल Ashish Shukla <wahjava@gmail.com> writes:

Hi Ashish,

>> Yes, that's exactly what they are for.  Let's assume you have the
>> following groups for the mailing lists:
>>
>>           mail.lists.one
>>           mail.lists.two
>>           ...
>>           mail.lists.nine
>
> How're those groups created ? Are you using group mail splitting ?

That was only an example.  I use IMAP and split on the server side with
Sieve.

> Anyways, following is my .gnus.
>
> -- begin .gnus --

[...]

> (setq nnmail-split-methods
> 	  '(("sent-mail" "^From:.*wahjava\\(?:.ml\\)?
> @remove[.]it[.]human[.]gmail[.]com")
> 	    ("lists" "^List-Id: ")
> 	    ("inbox" "")))

Ok, so all your list mails go into lists.

So these posting styles should work.

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
(setq gnus-posting-styles
      '((".*"
         (address "wahjava@remove.it.human.gmail.com (Ashish Shukla आशीषशुक्ल)")
         (organization "/\\/0/\\/3")
         ("X-PGP" "762E5E74")
         ("PGP" "762E5E74")
         ("X-PGP-FP" "1E00 4679 77E4 F8EE 2E4B 56F2 1F2F 8410 762E 5E74")
         ("X-Attribution" "आशीष")
         ("X-Mailer" (my-gnus-user-agent))
         (signature-file "~/.signature"))
        ("lists"
         (address "my@list-address.invalid"))))
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

Bye,
Tassilo

Re: gnus-posting-styles confusing

[आशीष शुक्ल Ashish Shukla]

Tassilo Horn \/\/|20+3:
> आशीष शुक्ल Ashish Shukla <wahjava@gmail.com> writes:
>
> Hi Ashish,
>
> >> Yes, that's exactly what they are for.  Let's assume you have the
> >> following groups for the mailing lists:
> >>
> >>           mail.lists.one
> >>           mail.lists.two
> >>           ...
> >>           mail.lists.nine
> >
> > How're those groups created ? Are you using group mail splitting ?
>
> That was only an example.  I use IMAP and split on the server side with
> Sieve.
>
> > Anyways, following is my .gnus.
> >
> > -- begin .gnus --
>
> [...]
>
> > (setq nnmail-split-methods
> > 	  '(("sent-mail" "^From:.*wahjava\\(?:.ml\\)?
> > @remove[.]it[.]human[.]gmail[.]com")
> > 	    ("lists" "^List-Id: ")
> > 	    ("inbox" "")))
>
> Ok, so all your list mails go into lists.
>
> So these posting styles should work.
>
> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
> (setq gnus-posting-styles
>       '((".*"
>          (address "wahjava@remove.it.human.gmail.com (Ashish Shukla आशीषशुक्ल)")
>          (organization "/\\/0/\\/3")
>          ("X-PGP" "762E5E74")
>          ("PGP" "762E5E74")
>          ("X-PGP-FP" "1E00 4679 77E4 F8EE 2E4B 56F2 1F2F 8410 762E 5E74")
>          ("X-Attribution" "आशीष")
>          ("X-Mailer" (my-gnus-user-agent))
>          (signature-file "~/.signature"))
>         ("lists"
>          (address "my@list-address.invalid"))))
> --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

Thanks for this snippet, I'm able to get  "gnus-posting-styles"
working on my box :)

>
> Bye,
> Tassilo

Ashish Shukla
--
http://wahjava.wordpress.com/