Setting UTF-7 for usenet posts

Setting UTF-7 for usenet posts

[Andrzej Adam Filip]

How to set up UTF-7 encoding for non ASCI posts?
[ Thanks in advance for the links ]

I am under impression than UTF-7 is better suited for usenet posts than
UTF-8. What is your opinion?

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Andrzej [en:Andrew] Adam Filip anfi@priv.onet.pl anfi@xl.wp.pl
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Re: Setting UTF-7 for usenet posts

[Jacob Sparre Andersen]

Andrzej Adam Filip <anfi@priv.onet.pl> writes:

> I am under impression than UTF-7 is better suited for usenet posts
> than UTF-8. What is your opinion?

UTF-7 may be marginally better suited, but personally I prefer an
appropriate fixed-width encoding (in my case mostly ISO-8859-1).

Greetings,

Jacob
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Re: Setting UTF-7 for usenet posts

[Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk]

Andrzej Adam Filip <anfi@priv.onet.pl> writes:

> I am under impression than UTF-7 is better suited for usenet posts than
> UTF-8. What is your opinion?

It's worse because it's much less widely implemented than UTF-8, and
also less readable when the reader doesn't know it.

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Re: Setting UTF-7 for usenet posts

[Andrzej Adam Filip]

Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk <qrczak@knm.org.pl> writes:

> Andrzej Adam Filip <anfi@priv.onet.pl> writes:
> > I am under impression than UTF-7 is better suited for usenet posts than
> > UTF-8. What is your opinion?
> 
> It's worse because it's
> [1] much less widely implemented than UTF-8

Which specific news readers support UTF-8 but no UTF-7?

> [2] less readable when the reader doesn't know it.

?! I disagree.

UTF-7 uses only prinatable characters. 
When I have used UTF-8 for usenet postings sometimes I have got replies
with "botched" encoding e.g. when news readers assumes some encoding and
ignores MIME headers.

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Andrzej [en:Andrew] Adam Filip anfi@priv.onet.pl anfi@xl.wp.pl
All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing 
     -- Edmund Burke (1729-1797)

Re: Setting UTF-7 for usenet posts

[Andrzej Adam Filip]

Jacob Sparre Andersen <sparre@nbi.dk> writes:

> Andrzej Adam Filip <anfi@priv.onet.pl> writes:
> > I am under impression than UTF-7 is better suited for usenet posts
> > than UTF-8. What is your opinion?
> 
> UTF-7 may be marginally better suited, but personally I prefer an
> appropriate fixed-width encoding (in my case mostly ISO-8859-1).

In my case it would be iso-8859-2 BUT I would like to
* preserve ISO-8859-1 names and surnames
* use euro sign

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Andrzej [en:Andrew] Adam Filip anfi@priv.onet.pl anfi@xl.wp.pl
All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing 
     -- Edmund Burke (1729-1797)

Re: Setting UTF-7 for usenet posts

[Adam Sjøgren]

On 11 Jul 2005 18:09:35 +0200, Andrzej wrote:

>> [2] less readable when the reader doesn't know it.

> ?! I disagree.

> UTF-7 uses only prinatable characters. 

Here is an example:

 Original text (iso-8859-1): Frække frølår
 UTF8:                       Frække frølår
 UTF7:                       Fr+AOY-kke fr+APg-l+AOU-r

For a hypothetical bad newsreader, the last is perhaps the easiest to
handle (only ascii-chars). For a human reader, I think utf8 is easier.


  Best regards,

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 "Lef ma nine imma Jeep"                                      Adam Sjøgren
                                                         asjo@koldfront.dk

Re: Setting UTF-7 for usenet posts

[Aidan Kehoe]

 Ar an t-aonú lá déag de mí Iúil, scríobh Andrzej Adam Filip: 

 > > It's worse because it's
 > > [1] much less widely implemented than UTF-8
 > 
 > Which specific news readers support UTF-8 but no UTF-7?

Gnus on XEmacs is one. 

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