From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.4 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 2417 invoked from network); 11 Dec 2023 21:27:30 -0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (209.51.188.17) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 11 Dec 2023 21:27:30 -0000 Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rCnky-0007W0-Nb; Mon, 11 Dec 2023 16:24:04 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rCnkv-0007Sc-Fh for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Dec 2023 16:24:01 -0500 Received: from mout02.posteo.de ([185.67.36.66]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rCnkt-0006CM-4H for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Dec 2023 16:24:01 -0500 Received: from submission (posteo.de [185.67.36.169]) by mout02.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1C492240103 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2023 22:23:56 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1702329836; bh=aOIkJpwNWUBMMVxM1ZBnt0/kzzxgwJa5P0qy7MIgP84=; h=MIME-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Date:From:To:Cc:Subject: Message-ID:From; b=TYdKIBI+gMLiDOqVmO+PFWAlvbA14v0DzD21WQOjpSYhszT4ocRmOBLKKdizP/HXH TYjV8Mef9/qHXtr66ajGAtdkPdrYtZ8AzL9zbp1uppH4LisA2OZzfF5QL6qlIFFWMB t2E/PAoCerYTG5cYuscmhtrq0x7a64fcYqupMEzWwEBjNM2LBS6cLvDHvM0n42dhx2 Ou0crHBqTqfo6hVPGUcgnNZ7YR3TxIqkDfLmN524CyPxalJF7iMGYugoDT0bOt/+mM 7JOglqndSt635ncGA/JJIXdlSlDB3EEAsuwFG9vYjFzv0kxJ4iQLvfG2stzBgwpKHY 6hYDI86YUFJrA== Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4SpvrC24JBz9rxB; Mon, 11 Dec 2023 22:23:55 +0100 (CET) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2023 21:23:55 +0000 From: rameiko87@posteo.net To: Arash Esbati Cc: Lars-Johan Liman , info-gnus-english@gnu.org Subject: Re: Have message-ID set by my email server rather than by Message In-Reply-To: References: <02faa3f8a25dc94c6e745ba7e119711a@posteo.net> <22jzpnyi1c.fsf@floptop.liman.net> <8b21e2aa979f8c1944fc0b5ca4be1e5c@posteo.net> Message-ID: <1b09a2ca927d9fc7150fde2032b53d86@posteo.net> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.67.36.66; envelope-from=rameiko87@posteo.net; helo=mout02.posteo.de X-Spam_score_int: -43 X-Spam_score: -4.4 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H5=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: info-gnus-english@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Announcements and discussions for GNUS, the GNU Emacs Usenet newsreader \(in English\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: info-gnus-english-bounces+ml=inbox.vuxu.org@gnu.org Sender: info-gnus-english-bounces+ml=inbox.vuxu.org@gnu.org >> Well, how else do you explain that when I remove Message-ID from >> message-required-mail-headers and send my email, then the Message-ID >> is given by the value of message-user-fqdn or when nil, by >> system-name? > > As I already said: My guess was that your sendmail program adds a > message-id. But then why does such Message-ID always reflect the value of message-user-fqdn ? If it really were sendmail adding it and not Message, then why would sendmail set the value of the Message-ID header according to the value of the variable message-user-fqdn? I think that sendmail doesn't even know about the message-user-fqdn variable. > You can set `message-generate-headers-first' to t and see what headers > Message produces when you start editing a message. Good suggestion: I just tried. Now message-generate-headers-first is true, and Message-ID doesn't appear in the message-required-mail-headers. Result: my emails all have Message-ID header, and it always reflects the value of message-user-fqdn! The mystery persists.