I now have a working system with just a few things to be sorted out, which are - * Summary line format gnus-summary-line-format "%0{%U%R%z%}%3{│%} %1{%d%} %3{│%}%4{%-20,20f%} %3{│%} %1{%B%}%s\n" gives this in the summary - R. │ 23-Mar │ Cron Daemon │ * Cron /usr/bin/apt-get update which is very good except its not showing the time of posting. How do I get that please? I did try - gnus-summary-line-format "%0{%U%R%z%}%3{│%} %1{%o%} %3{│%} %4{%-20,20f%} %3{│%} %1{%B%}%s\n" ie this - {%o%} but that just resulted in a hideous mess, so I reverted it! * Headers I have this in my 'gnus-testing.el' (setq gnus-visible-headers '("^From:\\|^Newsgroups:\\|^Subject:\\|^Date:\\|^To:") gnus-sorted-header-list gnus-visible-headers ) but that is still leaving me with headers like these- Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Cédric Boutillier @polytechnique.org Newsgroups: gmane.linux.debian.user.news Subject: Debian Project News - March 17th, 2014 Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2014 23:15:02 +0100 Lines: 415 Approved: news@gmane.org Message-ID: <20140317221502.GA10199@spin> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="x+6KMIRAuhnl3hBn" X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1395094547 11215 80.91.229.3 (17 Mar 2014 22:15:47 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2014 22:15:47 +0000 (UTC) To: debian-news@lists.debian.org What I'm looking for in my mail & newsgroups headers is just "From - | Newsgroup/Mail - | Date+time -| Subject - | To -", ie just the basics. I've been looking things up in 'gnus.info' but haven't found anything yet that fits the bill. Thanks for all of the help that I have received so far, it is appreciated and it is helping me get a working system. Sharon. -- A taste of linux = http://www.sharons.org.uk my git repo = https://bitbucket.org/boudiccas/dots Debian testing, Fluxbox 1.3.5, emacs 24.3.1 Registered Linux user 561944