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From: Lars-Johan Liman <info-gnus-english@cafax.se>
To: Jeffrey DeLeo <JeffreyDeLeo@gmail.com>
Cc: info-gnus-english@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Problem splitting (nnimap-inbox "[Gmail]/Alle Nachrichten")
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2021 12:43:41 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <22y2gm5xci.fsf@floptop.liman.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87k0s8dat9.fsf@gmail.com> (Jeffrey DeLeo's message of "Tue, 19 Jan 2021 18:46:26 +0000")

Hi, Jeffrey,

Lars-Johan Liman <info-gnus-english@cafax.se> writes:
>> respository. I do _nothing_ in Gmail. I download everything to my Gnus
>> machine and split the mail into folders there. Gmail knows nothing
>> about my folders. It just stores my mail until I download it. This may

JeffreyDeLeo@gmail.com 2021-01-19 18:46 [+0000]:
> Do you have gnus split the gmail messages to local folders? Would you
> share your splitting code?

After having written a looong message with that ^^^, I read your
following section once more:

> My experience is this: to copy a gmail message into a local nnml folder
> I need to first copy the message into the folder, then move the message
> to gmail trash. If I just move the message to the local nnml folder it
> never gets deleted from gmail.  I haven't worked out write split code in
> gnus that could do this for me - but I would be delighted if someone
> else had...

I do mail splitting successfully, but as I mentioned in _my_ previous
message:

>>> I never delete anything in Gmail (at least not through IMAP) and I
>>> don't care what Gmail has in store.

You seem to use the IMAP session more interactively than I do - moving
things around rather than just downloading unread messages. This
implicates that you use more than one e-mail client to handle your mail.
That is, of course, absolutely fine, but it means that your setup is
probably more complicated than mine, and that you may find it more
important to actually "do housekeeping" in the Gmail repository so that
other clients present a consistent view of your stored email. This is
all good.

For me Gmail is a FIFO. Mail arrives, I pick it up. I never use Gmail to
process my mail, nor do I use any other clients. That's my choice, and I
have all respsect for other people who choose differently.

So, *I* can live with leaving old irrelevant mail in a big "unsorted"
pile in Gmail. In my GNUS reader everything looks fine (... or, ahem ...
well ... ;-) ).

So, I can't help you with deleting the mail at Gmail. I wish I could,
because I would also like to know how it's done, but I've given up. And
TBH, I wouldn't be surprised if Google has deliberately omitted that
part of the IMAP spec. They are the biggest, so they do what they like -
standard or not. I suck it up and choose different providers whereever I
can influence the choice. :-(

			Best regards to you, and less so to Google ;-)
			  /Liman

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-01-21 11:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-01-16 18:51 physiculus
2021-01-16 20:54 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2021-01-17 14:17   ` physiculus
2021-01-18  4:53     ` Bob Newell
2021-01-18 13:42       ` Lars-Johan Liman
2021-01-18 18:17         ` Bob Newell
2021-01-19  9:24           ` Lars-Johan Liman
2021-01-19 18:46             ` Jeffrey DeLeo
2021-01-20 20:06               ` Bob Newell
2021-01-21  7:37                 ` physiculus
2021-01-21 20:20                   ` Bob Newell
2021-01-21 11:43               ` Lars-Johan Liman [this message]
2021-01-21 21:43                 ` Jeffrey DeLeo
2021-01-22  2:43                   ` Bob Newell
2021-01-19  9:43         ` physiculus
2021-01-19 10:52           ` Lars-Johan Liman

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