Re: add function to get time from message id's

Re: add function to get time from message id's

[Dan Jacobson]

> Wishlist: add a function to extract as much information as possible
> from gnus Message-ID's.
> 
> E.g. I am the FBI, I want to know when <87adalyvmw.fsf@jidanni.org>
> was created. I hear that 87adalyvmw contains time information.

< Messages already have a "Date" header.  How is this useful?

Here at FBI Labs, all we have is the suspect's Message-ID.

Re: add function to get time from message id's

[Ted Zlatanov]

On 10 Aug 2003, cor@clsnet.nl wrote:
> Dan Jacobson <jidanni@jidanni.org> writes:
> 
>> > Wishlist: add a function to extract as much information as
>> > possible from gnus Message-ID's.
>> > 
>> > E.g. I am the FBI, I want to know when
>> > <87adalyvmw.fsf@jidanni.org> was created. I hear that 87adalyvmw
>> > contains time information.
>> 
>> < Messages already have a "Date" header.  How is this useful?
>> 
>> Here at FBI Labs, all we have is the suspect's Message-ID.
> 
> 
> hint,hint,nudge,nuge
> google ?
> It would safe the taxpayer some billions.....;-)

Google doesn't archive personal mail...  I thought of suggesting
Google or something like it but Dan really just needs to archive
messages of interest, not only the Message-IDs.  Using the Message-ID
for any parsing is unreliable at best.

Ted

Re: add function to get time from message id's

[Cor Gest]

Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes:

> >> < Messages already have a "Date" header.  How is this useful?
> >> 
> >> Here at FBI Labs, all we have is the suspect's Message-ID.
> > 
> > 
> > hint,hint,nudge,nuge
> > google ?
> > It would safe the taxpayer some billions.....;-)
> 
> Google doesn't archive personal mail...  I thought of suggesting
> Google or something like it but Dan really just needs to archive
> messages of interest, not only the Message-IDs.  Using the Message-ID
> for any parsing is unreliable at best.


Indeed, if I would be someone with really non-nice mails to sent I
would make sure all-ID's were the same on every mail, and all dates
rewritten to the same date, and ofcourse use 4096-strong-encryption
and anonymousely remailed through at least 5 anonymizing-remailers.
Even spammers use some of those tricks... 

And then again, using packet-radio on an HF-frequency would do
the trick nicely too and also much simpler and really untraceable.
A nice side-effect is that the receiving-end nor the sender 
have to be "at-any-home" at all ...;-)


cor

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Re: add function to get time from message id's

[Ted Zlatanov]

On Fri, 08 Aug 2003, jidanni@jidanni.org wrote:

> Wishlist: add a function to extract as much information as possible
> from gnus Message-ID's.
> 
> E.g. I am the FBI, I want to know when <87adalyvmw.fsf@jidanni.org>
> was created. I hear that 87adalyvmw contains time information.

Messages already have a "Date" header.  How is this useful?

Ted