IMAP closing connection after inactivity

IMAP closing connection after inactivity

[Richard G Riley]

I have the same problem as the article I link and reproduce below. Is
there a way to get Gnus to keep an IMAP session open without using a
daemon to check for all new messages regularly?

http://osdir.com/ml/emacs.gnus.user/2006-02/msg00133.html

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| Subject: 	Gnus closing imap connection
| List-id: 	"Announcements and discussions for GNUS, the GNU Emacs Usenet newsreader \(in English\)" <info-gnus-english.gnu.org>
| 
| My IMAP connection closes and Gnus does not reopen it. I have to go to
| the "servers buffer" and do "O" to reopen. Then in a while it closes
| again.
| 
| In the " *nnimap* localhost" buffer I see this:
| 
| ===
| * BYE Disconnected for inactivity.^M
| - Peer has closed the GNUTLS connection
| 
| Process imap finished
| ===
| 
| Any idea how to fix it?
| 
| 
| -- 
| vedm
| 
| 
| 
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Re: IMAP closing connection after inactivity

[Gour]

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>>>>> "Richard" == Richard G Riley <rileyrgdev@gmail.com> writes:

Richard> I have the same problem as the article I link and reproduce
Richard> below. Is there a way to get Gnus to keep an IMAP session open
Richard> without using a daemon to check for all new messages regularly?

Same here...there is only line like:

"dovecot: 2008-01-31 08:50:38Info: IMAP(gour): Disconnected for
inactivity"

in dovecot's log.

Any workaround is appreciated...

Sincerely,
Gour

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Re: IMAP closing connection after inactivity

[Richard G Riley]

Richard G Riley <rileyrgdev@gmail.com> writes:

> I have the same problem as the article I link and reproduce below. Is
> there a way to get Gnus to keep an IMAP session open without using a
> daemon to check for all new messages regularly?
>
> http://osdir.com/ml/emacs.gnus.user/2006-02/msg00133.html
>


I received a reply (below) on the Dovecot mailing list. Could anyone here
suggest a Gnus fix?


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| Untrusted, Fingerprint: E643 F0BD FDCD 04D9 FFCB 6279 C948 5251 4055 8AC9]]
| On Thu, 2008-01-31 at 17:51 +0100, Richard G Riley wrote:
| > Could someone suggest what the solution here is? Dovecot is terminating
| > the connection to Gnus after a certain period of activity. It's my own
| > mail server so no need to worry about "hogging resources". Should/could
| > Dovecot be configured to keep the connection alive, or should Gnus be
| > programmed to automatically reopen the conneection? The current problem
| > that one can not leave an IMAP group if the connection is cut by the
| > server.
| ..
| > | "dovecot: 2008-01-31 08:50:38Info: IMAP(gour): Disconnected for
| > | inactivity"
| 
| I'd say this is a Gnus bug. If an IMAP client wants the connection to
| stay open, it should send something at least every 29 mins. Most (if not
| all) IMAP servers disconnect connections after 30 minutes of idling.
| This is hardcoded in Dovecot, but you can of course change it:
| 
| src/imap/common.h:
| #define CLIENT_IDLE_TIMEOUT (60*30)
| 
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Re: IMAP closing connection after inactivity

[Gour]

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>>>>> "Richard" == Richard G Riley <rileyrgdev@gmail.com> writes:

Richard> I received a reply (below) on the Dovecot mailing list. Could
Richard> anyone here suggest a Gnus fix?

Thank you for providing this ingfo. Let's hope some fix will be found
soon...

Sincerely,
Gour

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Re: IMAP closing connection after inactivity

[Reiner Steib]

On Thu, Jan 31 2008, Richard G Riley wrote:

> Richard G Riley <rileyrgdev@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> I have the same problem as the article I link and reproduce below. Is
>> there a way to get Gnus to keep an IMAP session open without using a
>> daemon to check for all new messages regularly?
>>
>> http://osdir.com/ml/emacs.gnus.user/2006-02/msg00133.html
>>
>
> I received a reply (below) on the Dovecot mailing list. Could anyone here
> suggest a Gnus fix?

Is your problem the same as described in the thread
<http://thread.gmane.org/8763y7e1ji.fsf@photon.caeruleus.net>?  Does
the patch suggested there (already included in current cvs) solve the
problem?

Bye, Reiner.
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Re: IMAP closing connection after inactivity

[Gour]

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>>>>> "Reiner" == Reiner Steib <reinersteib+gmane@imap.cc> writes:

Reiner> Is your problem the same as described in the thread
Reiner> <http://thread.gmane.org/8763y7e1ji.fsf@photon.caeruleus.net>?
Reiner> Does the patch suggested there (already included in current cvs)
Reiner> solve the problem?

Yes, the problem seems to be the same.

I'll try to re-build my unicode-2 brancs tomorrow and will report back.

Sincerely,
Gour


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Re: IMAP closing connection after inactivity

[Reiner Steib]

On Thu, Jan 31 2008, Gour wrote:

> I'll try to re-build my unicode-2 brancs tomorrow and will report back.

Make sure the it includes `imap-ping-server' in `imap.el'.  I'm not
sure how frequent Miles syncs from Gnus trunk -> Emacs trunk -> Emacs
unicode-2.

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Re: IMAP closing connection after inactivity

[Richard G Riley]

Reiner Steib <reinersteib+gmane@imap.cc> writes:

> On Thu, Jan 31 2008, Richard G Riley wrote:
>
>> Richard G Riley <rileyrgdev@gmail.com> writes:
>>
>>> I have the same problem as the article I link and reproduce below. Is
>>> there a way to get Gnus to keep an IMAP session open without using a
>>> daemon to check for all new messages regularly?
>>>
>>> http://osdir.com/ml/emacs.gnus.user/2006-02/msg00133.html
>>>
>>
>> I received a reply (below) on the Dovecot mailing list. Could anyone here
>> suggest a Gnus fix?
>
> Is your problem the same as described in the thread
> <http://thread.gmane.org/8763y7e1ji.fsf@photon.caeruleus.net>?  Does
> the patch suggested there (already included in current cvs) solve the
> problem?
>
> Bye, Reiner.

Hi Reiner,

It solved the problem, thanks.

Q: why didn't this solve the problem? (I'm not a lisp programmer but it
seemed to be the right idea and the function was certainly polled every
10 minutes)

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| (setq myimapserver "nnimap:myimapserver")
| 
| (defun keepmailserverawake ()
|   (gnus-demon-scan-mail)
|   (message "Mail scanned from the Gnus demon at %s" (current-time-string))
| )
| 
| (require 'gnus-demon)
| (setq gnus-use-demon t)
| (gnus-demon-add-handler 'keepmailserverawake 10 nil)
| (gnus-demon-init)
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Re: IMAP closing connection after inactivity

[Richard G Riley]

Richard G Riley <rileyrgdev@gmail.com> writes:

> Reiner Steib <reinersteib+gmane@imap.cc> writes:
>
>> On Thu, Jan 31 2008, Richard G Riley wrote:
>>
>>> Richard G Riley <rileyrgdev@gmail.com> writes:
>>>
>>>> I have the same problem as the article I link and reproduce below. Is
>>>> there a way to get Gnus to keep an IMAP session open without using a
>>>> daemon to check for all new messages regularly?
>>>>
>>>> http://osdir.com/ml/emacs.gnus.user/2006-02/msg00133.html
>>>>
>>>
>>> I received a reply (below) on the Dovecot mailing list. Could anyone here
>>> suggest a Gnus fix?
>>
>> Is your problem the same as described in the thread
>> <http://thread.gmane.org/8763y7e1ji.fsf@photon.caeruleus.net>?  Does
>> the patch suggested there (already included in current cvs) solve the
>> problem?
>>
>> Bye, Reiner.
>
> Hi Reiner,
>
> It solved the problem, thanks.
>
> Q: why didn't this solve the problem? (I'm not a lisp programmer but it
> seemed to be the right idea and the function was certainly polled every
> 10 minutes)
>
> ,----
> | (setq myimapserver "nnimap:myimapserver")
> | 
> | (defun keepmailserverawake ()
> |   (gnus-demon-scan-mail)
> |   (message "Mail scanned from the Gnus demon at %s" (current-time-string))
> | )
> | 
> | (require 'gnus-demon)
> | (setq gnus-use-demon t)
> | (gnus-demon-add-handler 'keepmailserverawake 10 nil)
> | (gnus-demon-init)
> `----

Sorry. I spoke to soon. I am denied access again. I'll look into it some
more tomorrow.

Re: IMAP closing connection after inactivity

[Gour]

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>>>>> "Reiner" == Reiner Steib <reinersteib+gmane@imap.cc> writes:

Reiner> Make sure the it includes `imap-ping-server' in `imap.el'.  I'm
Reiner> not sure how frequent Miles syncs from Gnus trunk -> Emacs trunk
Reiner> -> Emacs unicode-2.

I jut pulled emacs-unicode-2 pkgbuild (Arch linux) and the patch is
there.

Emacs (&Gnus) are built....let's see now...

Sincerely,
Gour


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Re: IMAP closing connection after inactivity

[Gour]

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>>>>> "Gour" == Gour  <gour@mail.inet.hr> writes:

Gour> Emacs (&Gnus) are built....let's see now...

It does not help - connection to my localhost IMAP server died again:

dovecot: 2008-02-01 08:45:49Info: IMAP(gour): Disconnected for
inactivity

 Sincerely,
Gour


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Re: IMAP closing connection after inactivity

[Gour]

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>>>>> "Gour" == Gour  <gour@mail.inet.hr> writes:

Gour> dovecot: 2008-02-01 08:45:49Info: IMAP(gour): Disconnected for
Gour> inactivity

Now I saw the following message in Gnus:

Garbage: - Peer has closed the GNUTLS connection

Process imap finished
* BYE Disconnected for inactivity.


Sincerely,
Gour


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Re: IMAP closing connection after inactivity

[Richard G Riley]

Gour <gour@mail.inet.hr> writes:

>>>>>> "Gour" == Gour  <gour@mail.inet.hr> writes:
>
> Gour> dovecot: 2008-02-01 08:45:49Info: IMAP(gour): Disconnected for
> Gour> inactivity
>
> Now I saw the following message in Gnus:
>
> Garbage: - Peer has closed the GNUTLS connection
>
> Process imap finished
> * BYE Disconnected for inactivity.

I have the CVS Gnus and it still disconnects.

Re: IMAP closing connection after inactivity

[Gour]

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>>>>> "Richard" == Richard G Riley <rileyrgdev@gmail.com> writes:

Richard> I have the CVS Gnus and it still disconnects.

I have emacs-unicode-2 branch and it contains 'ping imap' patch, but
still...

Sincerely,
Gour


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Re: IMAP closing connection after inactivity

[Richard G Riley]

Gour <gour@mail.inet.hr> writes:

>>>>>> "Richard" == Richard G Riley <rileyrgdev@gmail.com> writes:
>
> Richard> I have the CVS Gnus and it still disconnects.
>
> I have emacs-unicode-2 branch and it contains 'ping imap' patch, but
> still...
>
> Sincerely,
> Gour

It still closes on you too?

Are there any plans to re-investigate this?

Re: IMAP closing connection after inactivity

[Gour]

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>>>>> "Richard" == Richard G Riley <rileyrgdev@gmail.com> writes:

Richard> It still closes on you too?

Yep :-(


Sincerely,
Gour

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Re: IMAP closing connection after inactivity

[Richard G Riley]

Gour <gour@mail.inet.hr> writes:

>>>>>> "Richard" == Richard G Riley <rileyrgdev@gmail.com> writes:
>
> Richard> It still closes on you too?
>
> Yep :-(

I had a look at imap-ping-server but I dont know how to use it from a
demon or somesuch since it expects "buffer" to be an IMAP server. Not
being a lisp programmer I really don't quite know what that means or
expects.

Reiner, could you comment please?

(btw, I am using dovecot too and the developer said it is a Gnus issue
to keep the link alive).

Re: IMAP closing connection after inactivity

[Allen S. Rout]

Gour <gour@mail.inet.hr> writes:

>>>>>> "Richard" == Richard G Riley <rileyrgdev@gmail.com> writes:
>
> Richard> It still closes on you too?
>
> Yep :-(


I -think- I'm seeing the same problem, despite having patched my
imap.el.

I'm running against cyrus, using 

GNU Emacs 22.1.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu, X toolkit, Xaw3d scroll bars) of 2008-01-30 on crepe
gnus 5.11

My apologies if I've missed a version bump somewhere; I've tried to
follow this thread.


- Allen S. Rout

Re: IMAP closing connection after inactivity

[Richard G Riley]

Richard G Riley <rileyrgdev@gmail.com> writes:

> Gour <gour@mail.inet.hr> writes:
>
>>>>>>> "Richard" == Richard G Riley <rileyrgdev@gmail.com> writes:
>>
>> Richard> It still closes on you too?
>>
>> Yep :-(
>
> I had a look at imap-ping-server but I dont know how to use it from a
> demon or somesuch since it expects "buffer" to be an IMAP server. Not
> being a lisp programmer I really don't quite know what that means or
> expects.
>
> Reiner, could you comment please?
>
> (btw, I am using dovecot too and the developer said it is a Gnus issue
> to keep the link alive).

Just a little "ping" here in case Reiner has missed the ongoing
issues. Where should one raise this matter further?

Re: IMAP closing connection after inactivity

[Gour]

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Richard> Sorry. I spoke to soon. I am denied access again. I'll look into it
Richard> some more tomorrow.

Any progress on it?

I still get:

Garbage: - Peer has closed the GNUTLS connection

Process imap finished
* BYE Disconnected for inactivity.


Sincerely,
Gour

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