From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.user/14896 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: DekuDekuplex@Yahoo.com (Benjamin L. Russell) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.user Subject: Re: IMAP- Gmail mark sent as read Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 19:01:18 +0900 Message-ID: <8262p7j9g1.fsf@Yahoo.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1305799339 32324 80.91.229.12 (19 May 2011 10:02:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 10:02:19 +0000 (UTC) To: info-gnus-english@gnu.org Original-X-From: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu May 19 12:02:12 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QN03Y-0004Rx-Dd for gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org; Thu, 19 May 2011 12:02:12 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43371 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QN03X-0008Sb-MW for gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org; Thu, 19 May 2011 06:02:11 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:34613) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QN03T-0008RC-3x for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Thu, 19 May 2011 06:02:10 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QN03O-0004VP-6R for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Thu, 19 May 2011 06:02:07 -0400 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:50141) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QN03N-0004V6-SR for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Thu, 19 May 2011 06:02:02 -0400 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QN03M-0004Jx-BH for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Thu, 19 May 2011 12:02:00 +0200 Original-Received: from p4107-ipbf7203marunouchi.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp ([114.164.163.107]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 19 May 2011 12:02:00 +0200 Original-Received: from DekuDekuplex by p4107-ipbf7203marunouchi.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 19 May 2011 12:02:00 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 59 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: p4107-ipbf7203marunouchi.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAHlBMVEUYFxcCBg6kpaUmNIEp icj////9/f0lZnglKUb//v47VH4JAAACZ0lEQVQ4jXWTwW6jMBCG7URqODKs1HJMsm3S3tJ1 JXJurXKvBCtuibU44dYUBDnCskp8rgRS33bHEJJ0tfXBtubz/GPPeIj3xSBfg1qM5ceZJZDj cajBCog9ObOLjUl3GoyIUsaRBPWmVMSqECwB7LkVduC2XwBY2mNtlrkNk6oFghb2vLjUHu9A VAFW6CMKgyG655BqDx+MHAAmPqpFkqJwDjcNyBWbmbSHwI/WQG02L5rrBiND5ZQZEQK5YcRQ yo6alw9LxhS7TyPPF3icMTaoGrC0S8XYvCcruejjGVVYB8CaYUgPlRy97bVJXAJqOfFsEok+ e0JfarVgXepTPL6QqzKJ9f6yBT/Nkjk8cXty+OBmGWPFRQteBknGEpfPp7eIs4xv0xb4QPoJ 5+6r2me4zAx6dwCvTsw451sywDl2sjxsQSAy46EBe5zdfD+uDjUPBDHJPpspI9kSStoKaOAP wSSZq4GbU7BOoAATtbZqoJUA7jrwDvBNq2+nOL8C7A4gwKr/QdPjdIXzE9UVb8EIHLTw5+kv vcS0A95SC3E+GQu9JPdngCUaCKkBm1lVJ2WX2hIK/1pLFVfRAWzAiTF2KH0MEsdgH1MCDLWe q9pbXbsxK9IuRo0ldB5TL/DEdczmpwe+ALq83egjPGZUf7cTcDItXKPHWUr8EZIfzX//jg7N pdq0LwBUrwELA3sgOPbgCj/1ZZPstd555x5Xu7Y9NtDmsAW308JqhL16af5+O4GJL6xDqy3S aH0M7qde3XWnCL337rrB6sY7H/WxgqPPwO91YBh+AsG2y678B8jjA/83vgR/AXSoVPVrTcNy AAAAAElFTkSuQmCC User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.3 (windows-nt) Cancel-Lock: sha1:SY+wzXjl5pCgSA7RpcsVNg1gMp8= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 80.91.229.12 X-BeenThere: info-gnus-english@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Announcements and discussions for GNUS, the GNU Emacs Usenet newsreader \(in English\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.user:14896 Archived-At: Tassilo Horn writes: > DekuDekuplex@Yahoo.com (Benjamin L. Russell) writes: > > Hi Benjamin, > >>> It has nothing to do with that being your third nntp server. I did some >>> more testing and added news.gnus.org as my fourth nntp server. >>> >>> (add-to-list 'gnus-secondary-select-methods >>> '(nntp "Quimby" >>> (nntp-address "news.gnus.de"))) >>> >>> That's the only entry for Quimby, and since there's no group listed and >>> "Has read" doesn't look like a proper description, it looks like a >>> server issue to me. >> >> You added news.gnus.de, instead of news.gnus.org; are you sure that >> those two NNTP addresses point to the same server? > > Argh, stupid me! Ok, now I did that with the right address, did M-x > gnus-group-describe-all-groups RET, and those are all Quimby groups I > got described: > > 11 matches for "Quimby" in buffer: *Group* > 2026: *: nntp+Quimby:local.general Local general group > 2216: *: nntp+Quimby:control.cancel Cancel messages (no posting) > 4929: *: nntp+Quimby:control Various control messages (no posting) > 8872: *: nntp+Quimby: Has read > 10485: *: nntp+Quimby:local.test Local test group > 10798: *: nntp+Quimby:. > 11634: *: nntp+Quimby:junk Unfiled articles (no posting) > 17588: *: nntp+Quimby:control.rmgroup Newsgroup removal control messages (no posting) > 17647: *: nntp+Quimby:control.newgroup Newsgroup creation control messages (no posting) > 24293: *: nntp+Quimby:215 Descriptions in form "group description" > 27158: *: nntp+Quimby:control.checkgroups Hierarchy check control messages (no posting) > > These are still not all groups, and the nameless group, the group 215, > and "." don't look correct. And the description 'Descriptions in form > "group description"' pretty much looks like a parsing issue. Your list exactly matches my own list displayed in Gnus upon entering M-x gnus-group-describe-all-groups RET. This issue seems to be a server-side configuration bug. Thank you for your responses; they have been very helpful. Now I know that the issue doesn't seem be be related with a configuration bug in my ~/.gnus.el file. For the next step, I'll try to find a way to get in touch with the news.gnus.org server maintainers to advise them of their server configuration bug. Cheers, Benjamin L. Russell -- Benjamin L. Russell / DekuDekuplex at Yahoo dot com http://dekudekuplex.wordpress.com/ Translator/Interpreter / Mobile: +011 81 90-6526-1406 "Furuike ya, kawazu tobikomu mizu no oto." -- Matsuo Basho^