gnutls windows smtp

gnutls windows smtp

[Hugh]

Please point me to simple directions for using the
gmail smtp server, by means of gnutls, from emacs gnus
to send mail, in the Windows XP operating system.  I am
using this emacs: GNU Emacs 23.1.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600)

I need complete configuration directions.

Re: gnutls windows smtp

[Hugh Lawson]

Hugh <hu.lawson@gmail.com> writes:

> Please point me to simple directions for using the
> gmail smtp server, by means of gnutls, from emacs gnus
> to send mail, in the Windows XP operating system.  I am
> using this emacs: GNU Emacs 23.1.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600)

[ snip ]

Perhaps this cannot be done. Does anybody know?


Hugh

Re: gnutls windows smtp

[Paul Bibbings]

Hugh Lawson <hlawson@triad.rr.com> writes:

> Hugh <hu.lawson@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> Please point me to simple directions for using the
>> gmail smtp server, by means of gnutls, from emacs gnus
>> to send mail, in the Windows XP operating system.  I am
>> using this emacs: GNU Emacs 23.1.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600)
>
> [ snip ]
>
> Perhaps this cannot be done. Does anybody know?

Hi Hugh

I remember that I wasn't able to get this working when I tried back in
January.  My setup was (and still is) GNU Emacs 23.1.1
(i386-mingw-nt6.0.6002) on Windows Vista.  (Having said that, I have
recently upgraded my Gnus to version v0.11, but the problems I was
encountering were focussed in the Emacs mail package outside of Gnus).
I was experimenting both with a version of gnutls from my Cygwin
installation, and another that, IIRC, I built myself from source.

I did some debugging (see
http://groups.google.com/group/gnu.emacs.gnus/browse_thread/thread/d561d7cc266a2336/74092c866822bc04)
and it seemed that a particular section of code was skipping sending a
STARTTLS even though the Google smtp server was publishing STARTTLS as
available.  At the time I couldn't see that there was any way around the
issue without modifying Emacs source, and I don't know Lisp that well.

In the end I had to run through various old e-mail subscriptions that I
had accumulated to see if I could find one that permitted use of its
smtp server with any from address.   I was lucky, and found one.

My best assessment - though I didn't go into it that deeply - is that
Gmail's smtp server is sending its EHLO response in form that, in some
way, Emacs' smtpmail is a little confused by.

Having given up on it myself, if you do get this working, I would love
to know the solution too.

Good luck!

Regards

Paul Bibbings

Re: gnutls windows smtp

[Hugh Lawson]

Paul Bibbings <paul.bibbings@gmail.com> writes:

[ snip ]

> Having given up on it myself, if you do get this working, I would love
> to know the solution too.
>
> Good luck!

Thank you Paul. 

Hugh

Re: gnutls windows smtp

[Pascal Quesseveur]

>"HL" == Hugh Lawson <hlawson@triad.rr.com> a écrit :

  HL> Perhaps this cannot be done. Does anybody know?

I've tried several times without any success. I am currently using
msmtp with the following settings:

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
  (setq sendmail-program "msmtp"
        message-sendmail-envelope-from 'header
        send-mail-function 'mailclient-send-it
        message-send-mail-function 'message-send-mail-with-sendmail)
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

and config file ~/msmtprc.txt is:

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
account gmail
host smtp.gmail.com
auth on
tls on
tls_certcheck off
user pquessev@gmail.com
password xxxxx
port 587

account default : gmail
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---



-- 
Pascal Quesseveur
pascal.quesseveur@free.fr

Re: gnutls windows smtp

[Hugh Lawson]

Pascal Quesseveur <pascal.quesseveur@free.fr> writes:


> I've tried several times without any success. I am currently using
> msmtp with the following settings:

Thanks Pascal for sharing.  I've given up on this. 

I need much hard study to figure out how to make w32 emacs and emacs
gnus interoperate with gmail.  There is much new knowledge required, 
for me.

This is a hobby project, so I'll put it aside for a while.

If there is much demand for this, somebody will make it easier.



Hugh

Re: msmtp instead of gnutls was Re: gnutls windows smtp

[Ted Zlatanov]

On Tue, 30 Mar 2010 17:39:13 -0400 Hugh Lawson <hu.lawson@gmail.com> wrote: 

HL> Trying again, I got msmtp to send mail from w32 Emacs Gnus.

HL> # msmtprc.txt contents
HL> account default
HL> host smtp.gmail.com
HL> from MY.EMAIL@gmail.com
HL> auth on
HL> tls on
HL> tls_certcheck off
HL> user MY.EMAIL@gmail.com
HL> password MYPASSWDatGmail
HL> port 587
HL> logfile c:\emacs\msmtplog.txt

HL> #variables set in Emacs.
HL> (setq message-send-mail-function 'message-send-mail-with-sendmail)
HL> (setq sendmail-program "c:/emacs/msmtp.exe")
HL> (setq mail-host-address "gmail.com")
HL> (setq user-mail-address "MY.EMAIL@gmail.com")

You should post this to the Emacs Wiki, if you haven't already.  I'm
sure others will be grateful.

Ted

msmtp instead of gnutls was Re: gnutls windows smtp

[Hugh Lawson]

Hugh Lawson <hlawson@triad.rr.com> writes:
[ snip ]

Trying again, I got msmtp to send mail from w32 Emacs Gnus.

# msmtprc.txt contents
account default
host smtp.gmail.com
from MY.EMAIL@gmail.com
auth on
tls on
tls_certcheck off
user MY.EMAIL@gmail.com
password MYPASSWDatGmail
port 587
logfile c:\emacs\msmtplog.txt

#variables set in Emacs.
(setq message-send-mail-function 'message-send-mail-with-sendmail)
(setq sendmail-program "c:/emacs/msmtp.exe")
(setq mail-host-address "gmail.com")
(setq user-mail-address "MY.EMAIL@gmail.com")

Thanks to Pascal for the encouragement.

Re: msmtp instead of gnutls was Re: gnutls windows smtp

[Hugh]

On Mar 30, 5:04 pm, Ted Zlatanov <t...@lifelogs.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 30 Mar 2010 17:39:13 -0400 Hugh Lawson <hu.law...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> HL> Trying again, I got msmtp to send mail from w32 Emacs Gnus.
> You should post this to the Emacs Wiki, if you haven't already.  I'm
> sure others will be grateful.
>
> Ted

Hello Ted, I cannot now reproduce those results. Hence I removed that
post from the
google archive.

Hugh

Re: msmtp instead of gnutls was Re: gnutls windows smtp

[Hugh Lawson]

Hugh <hu.lawson@gmail.com> writes:

[ snip ]
GNU Emacs 23.1.1 (i386-mingw-nt6.0.6002)
XP Pro
msmtp

Goal: use mx-mail in emacs to send email, by the gmail
smtp server, and use 'm' command in gnus to send email.

Here the the configuration files.

#msmtprc.txt--anonymized
host smtp.gmail.com
port 587
auth on
tls on
tls_starttls on
#next line was the hard part
#I had to study 
tls_trust_file <path to >\filename.pem
user GMAIL-USER@gmail.com
password SECRET
from GMAIL-USer@gmail.com
#end msmtprc.txt--anonymized


;;started with *empty* .emacs file.
;;.emacs init file--anonymized
(global-set-key [f1] `help)
(global-set-key "\C-xh"  'help)
;;
(setq gnus-select-method '(nntp "my.news.server.com"))
(setq message-send-mail-function 'sendmail-send-it)
(setq send-mail-function 'sendmail-send-it)
(setq sendmail-program "c:/Program Files/msmtp-1.4.20-w32/msmtp.exe")
(setq user-full-name "Who Indeed")
(setq user-mail-address "GMAIL-USER@gmail.com")
;; end of .emacs init file


I started with msmtp. Only when I could by the command line
send an email with msmtp did I begin to work with emacs. 

To keep things simple in emacs, I moved the existing .emacs
init file aside, and began with an empty .emacs file.

Hugh