From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.user/2931 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Jochen_K=FCpper?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.user Subject: Re: sending automatic bcc to myself Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 11:27:58 +0200 Organization: FHI Berlin & FOM Rijnhuizen Message-ID: <863cfqccip.fsf@doze.rijnh.nl> References: <86ptixu6p6.fsf@nan.here> <86zni1znue.fsf@doze.rijnh.nl> <84ison3q8a.fsf@slowfox.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.de> <86fzjq9ajy.fsf@doze.rijnh.nl> <84y8xi3im2.fsf@slowfox.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.de> Reply-To: jochen-W2i0oK7yYu0+t3nig+EZI7NAH6kLmebB@public.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1138669192 16860 80.91.229.2 (31 Jan 2006 00:59:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 00:59:52 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: nobody Tue Jan 17 17:31:26 2006 Original-Path: quimby.gnus.org!newsfeed1.e.nsc.no!nsc.no!nextra.com!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!dhcp124-216.rijnh.NL!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.gnus Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: dhcp124-216.rijnh.nl (192.42.124.216) Original-X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1061803702 8193858 192.42.124.216 (16 [188127]) X-Archive: encrypt X-Attribution: Jochen Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAMFBMVEUcGRSqioSCPi7Cwbxu Vk5MQjycXkxMKiQAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAFG2qEAAAB5klEQVR42nXUwY7aMBAA UK8E4tqpI/fMKIWzFdBewcwm10WA9tpksz6zFci/37GdxF7a+mLwi2fGQ4yo/jPE9AkaIcRM/gU7 EcfTA/zgtWsuEfRmWPVjlsOryMYpAYgvYz9B8RXmhxHEw/gcQD+sz/cDbMLXhbu7a6j6Nob6FuDW U21+uje8nuUA/rnXxR4ArCWi5jhWJSJUmoWop7HckPt+Bz6PsrYmexgg5HY3CDvKuq/lAM9hB4VQ HfZEMt8xj2BLSrD1cDlThNJMoXSEWnroDJr3HM5nDtUbRIPuluDqLlx8YdYuh0o87S6+DWANUrn+ Pf0eO7vh1Awf98XKXi/jAatnCwU/Bebl5pZqjRNs2xa4IcoqdEuN5QSbFn3pYLkqqbtyLLfSEbQi XEn4jsvpZRiAO7UCUCYBhE7zhAgSclAyToiSO5xgA+8RONYqD6X3YYdWnakJU1WVPsaI0LXU5VBF kMr6aJTBPk4KfP5SJoAYEXpE5/4FVnVrpHQ/tny/pAduZl/bBDsGLbkqD7ZN0PgbCfwucPL49gzd pZmPw22SoPoc+iZkAL+J6nRrdQEHf+4Qqm4TFJJ8idxYrumY/QEAFHQI65xhcZqgOEHhTAhk6WUu jgPohnc4wgD21+zN+c79AZmNym6Cgz4IAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC X-URL: http://jochen-kuepper.de User-Agent: Gnus v5.10.3 Cancel-Lock: sha1:LxJkJhBOPkuWUI2lKVOR5olvEKA= Original-Xref: bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de gnus-emacs-gnus:3072 Original-Lines: 61 X-Gnus-Article-Number: 3072 Tue Jan 17 17:31:26 2006 Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.user:2931 Archived-At: On Sun, 24 Aug 2003 22:28:53 +0200 Kai Großjohann wrote: Kai> Jochen Küpper writes: >> I don't get the point, I am afraid. Kai> Say you now have Kai> (add-to-list 'gnus-secondary-select-methods Kai> '(nnimap "foo" Kai> (nnimap-address "my.imap.server"))) And ,---- | gnus-message-archive-method '(nnimap "foo") `---- Kai> Now it turns out that the server admins want to switch to SSL, so Kai> you change the above to Kai> (add-to-list 'gnus-secondary-select-methods Kai> '(nnimap "foo" Kai> (nnimap-address "my.imap.server") Kai> (nnimap-stream ssl))) Kai> With your method, you have to repeat this change in Kai> gnus-message-archive-method, too. How? What to? I would just leave it at the above. I actually changed from (specified) ssl to (autodetected) starttls at some point without touching ``gnus-message-archive-method '(nnimap "foo")'' AFAICR. Kai> With my suggestion, the group names nnimap+foo:my.archive.group Kai> don't change, and so you just have to change one spot. Well, I could write a function to provide this prefix, but *I* do need the prefix at several points in my Gnus init file. Kai> The same reasoning applies if you add/change any other parameter. Kai> Maybe your IMAP server moves and you change the nnimap-address Kai> parameter, or perhaps you change nnimap-news-groups, or... To my mind I should't have to do anything to gnus-message-archive-method as long as I keep the name "foo" in the above server specification. AFAICT Gnus just puts the prefix derived from the gnus-message-archive-method ("nnimap+foo:") in front of each string in gnus-message-archive-group. Which comes down to the same group names you'd generate by hand... Since there's some calculation involved for me to generate the group names, I'm happy to leave the server issue out for simplicity. Greetings, Jochen -- Einigkeit und Recht und Freiheit http://www.Jochen-Kuepper.de Liberté, Égalité, Fraternité GnuPG key: CC1B0B4D Sex, drugs and rock-n-roll