From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.user/18598 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Harry Putnam Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.user Subject: Re: how can I keep gnus from Hiding All Threads when open a group Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2017 13:37:24 -0400 Organization: Still searching... Message-ID: <8660gdgegb.fsf@local.lan> References: <87tw3xrabh.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1496511465 25131 195.159.176.226 (3 Jun 2017 17:37:45 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2017 17:37:45 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4 (gnu/linux) To: info-gnus-english@gnu.org Original-X-From: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jun 03 19:37:40 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dHCzb-0006BG-7V for gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org; Sat, 03 Jun 2017 19:37:39 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54396 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dHCzg-0007sL-JU for gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org; Sat, 03 Jun 2017 13:37:44 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:37394) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dHCza-0007s2-Jr for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Sat, 03 Jun 2017 13:37:39 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dHCzX-0003S9-DB for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Sat, 03 Jun 2017 13:37:38 -0400 Original-Received: from [195.159.176.226] (port=52144 helo=blaine.gmane.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dHCzX-0003Qg-6M for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Sat, 03 Jun 2017 13:37:35 -0400 Original-Received: from list by blaine.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dHCzN-0005YX-3j for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Sat, 03 Jun 2017 19:37:25 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 50 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:1V8HDnMbQv5AfSH9rr/DlHF2GPs= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 195.159.176.226 X-BeenThere: info-gnus-english@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Announcements and discussions for GNUS, the GNU Emacs Usenet newsreader \(in English\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "info-gnus-english" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.user:18598 Archived-At: Eric Abrahamsen writes: > Harry Putnam writes: > >> I notice when I open a group, gnus hides all threads seemingly >> automatically. >> >> But when opening really large groups; 12,000 and up, even 50,000 msgs >> that process of hiding all threads can become a hefty time sink. >> >> Even when unplugged and all the messages are already downloaded. >> >> How could I go about telling gnus to leave the threads unhidden or >> would that have the effect I'm hoping for... i.e. speeding up opening >> really large groups. > > I'm not quite sure what you mean by "hiding" -- do you mean the threads > are folded? Like you only see the top message in the thread and have to > expand it to see the rest? Yes. I got the terminology from gnus itself.... when I open a large group After showing a message about generating the summary buffer, it shows a message of `Hiding all threads' and then a count usually only displays the thousands. > Anyway, I doubt this is the source of the slowdown -- asking Gnus to > display 50,000 messages in a summary buffer is going to be slow no > matter what. Turning off threading altogether should help some, but > that's all I can say. I do realize that groups of that size are really really slow. I have some experience in that area. However unless the `hiding all threads' message is misleading and doesn't really have anything to do with what is happening, I can see the wait growing longer by watching `hiding all threads'; 1000 ... ...2000 ....3000 the waits between are relatively short but after about 4000 the waits between ouput grow exponentially. Getting up to 7/8 thousand the wait between 7 and 8000 is quite lengthy. I haven't timed it or I'd post the times. That's what gave me the idea of cutting out the thread hiding.... Also, must of what I do in there means I have to SHOW threads anyway `T S' so I have to undo the Hiding anyway. Writing that made me think it might be a setting of my own doing. Can one set how threads are displayed when a group is opened?