From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.user/8880 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Kai Grossjohann Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.user Subject: Re: Modifiable mbox? Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2007 16:07:02 +0200 Message-ID: <86bqhvhunt.fsf@ketchup.de.uu.net> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1176302197 22402 80.91.229.12 (11 Apr 2007 14:36:37 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2007 14:36:37 +0000 (UTC) To: info-gnus-english@gnu.org Original-X-From: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Apr 11 16:36:22 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Hbdsy-0002eK-Od for gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org; Wed, 11 Apr 2007 16:33:25 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Hbdx1-0008Oc-PV for gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org; Wed, 11 Apr 2007 10:37:35 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Hbdwj-0008Do-1E for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Apr 2007 10:37:17 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Hbdwi-0008DL-8p for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Apr 2007 10:37:16 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Hbdwh-0008DF-Ts for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Apr 2007 10:37:15 -0400 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2] helo=ciao.gmane.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Hbdse-0003E6-1e for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Apr 2007 10:33:04 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1HbdpJ-0002hU-Nz for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Apr 2007 16:29:41 +0200 Original-Received: from de-lt-054776l.eu.frd.uu.net ([62.191.185.105]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2007 16:29:37 +0200 Original-Received: from kai by de-lt-054776l.eu.frd.uu.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2007 16:29:37 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 39 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: de-lt-054776l.eu.frd.uu.net User-Agent: Gnus/5.110006 (No Gnus v0.6) Emacs/22.0.93 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:v+bIVqBdgfjVaAE8myjD+RLkkOo= X-detected-kernel: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: info-gnus-english@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Announcements and discussions for GNUS, the GNU Emacs Usenet newsreader \(in English\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.user:8880 Archived-At: More recent versions of Gnus than yours have spam handling built-in. You can detect incoming spam during splitting, and you can feed incorrectly classified ham/spam to your spam filter (Spamassassin). As usual with Gnus, there are too many options. Kai Geoff Kuenning writes: > I procmail presumed spam into an mbox file, and then periodically scan > it for ham. Right now, I use rmail to move the ham elsewhere and > delete it from the mbox; then I convert it from Babyl back to mbox and > feed it to spamassassin for Bayesian learning. > > The problem with that method is that rmail isn't my favorite > interface, and in fact it breaks after 10,000 messages. I'd prefer to > use gnus to do my filtering and processing. The problem is that I > can't figure out how to make gnus descend into an mbox in a writeable > fashion. gnus-group-make-doc-group is great for browsing the group, > but doesn't let me delete ham after I've written it to a different file. > > Is it possible to get gnus to descend into an mbox without > reformatting it into nnml, but still being able to delete messages? > I'd rather not move thousands of messages into separate files, since > then I'd just have to collect everything together again to feed it to > Spamassassin. > > I'm also open to alternative suggestions. My requirements are that I > need to save semi-spam in a procmail-friendly way, use gnus to move > the few real ham messages to a different place, and easily feed the > remaining stuff to spamassassin. Other than that, I'm willing to > change how I do things. > -- > Geoff Kuenning geoff@cs.hmc.edu http://www.cs.hmc.edu/~geoff/ > > If you can't measure it, it's not science. > -- Robert A. Heinlein, "The Door Into Summer"