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* Content-Transfer-Encoding issue
@ 2009-08-16 21:40 Byung-Hee HWANG
  2009-08-17 17:40 ` Merciadri Luca
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 3+ messages in thread
From: Byung-Hee HWANG @ 2009-08-16 21:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: info-gnus-english

Sometimes when i send email (with UTF-8) to a mailing list server using
Sendmail as MTA, they convert my Content-Transfer-Encoding from 
quoted-printable to 8bit. So i thought that 8bit is better than
quoted-printable. Well still i cannot sure what it is better for
Content-Transfer-Encoding. 

Any comment advice welcome!

TIA,

-- 
"Sometimes I think I'm going crazy."
		-- Johnny Fontane, "Chapter 1", page 36

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* Re: Content-Transfer-Encoding issue
  2009-08-16 21:40 Content-Transfer-Encoding issue Byung-Hee HWANG
@ 2009-08-17 17:40 ` Merciadri Luca
  2009-08-18 21:48   ` Byung-Hee HWANG
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 3+ messages in thread
From: Merciadri Luca @ 2009-08-17 17:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: info-gnus-english

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Byung-Hee HWANG <bh@izb.knu.ac.kr> writes:

[...]
> Any comment advice welcome!
>
> TIA,
According to http://www.smo.uhi.ac.uk/gaidhlig/sracan/QP-8bit.txt,
both things are okay. Here is the most important text from this:

Both proposals had their merits.  Obviously the ESMTP solution was
best in the long run.  It was simpler and it saved some bandwidth,
CPU time and storage space which would otherwise be used in 7-bit
encoding of 8-bit data.  There are far fewer different MTA's around
than there are MUA's.  Only one piece of software had to be changed
on each machine and this was usually in the control of someone who
was knowledgeable about computers.  The ESMTP solution was easier to
interface to old pre-MIME software which was known to be 8-bit clean,
as most of it was.

The quoted-printable (QP) proposal also had its merits.  This solution
was close to the two people who most wanted a solution, the sender and
the recipient, rather than involving system managers of intervening
machines who might have no interest in the problem of accented
characters.  There was less danger of software being passed 8-bit
data.  (Examples were found of software which actually crashed if it
was presented with 8-bit data, although it would be amazing if there
was any such software left seven years on.)  Many people felt that even
if the recipient's mailer wasn't MIME capable it was better for him or
her to see thingies like "=E1" than to risk having accented characters
deleted or having their eighth bit stripped.

So BOTH proposals were accepted.  It is legal MIME to have messages
headed with:

       Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
       Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable

and it is just as legal to have messages headed with:

       Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
       Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit



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Merciadri Luca
See http://www.student.montefiore.ulg.ac.be/~merciadri/
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* Re: Content-Transfer-Encoding issue
  2009-08-17 17:40 ` Merciadri Luca
@ 2009-08-18 21:48   ` Byung-Hee HWANG
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 3+ messages in thread
From: Byung-Hee HWANG @ 2009-08-18 21:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: info-gnus-english

Merciadri Luca <Luca.Merciadri@student.ulg.ac.be> writes:

> Byung-Hee HWANG <bh@izb.knu.ac.kr> writes:
>
> [...]
>> Any comment advice welcome!
>>
>> TIA,
> According to http://www.smo.uhi.ac.uk/gaidhlig/sracan/QP-8bit.txt,
> both things are okay. Here is the most important text from this:
>
> Both proposals had their merits.  Obviously the ESMTP solution was
> best in the long run.  It was simpler and it saved some bandwidth,
> CPU time and storage space which would otherwise be used in 7-bit
> encoding of 8-bit data.  There are far fewer different MTA's around
> than there are MUA's.  Only one piece of software had to be changed
> on each machine and this was usually in the control of someone who
> was knowledgeable about computers.  The ESMTP solution was easier to
> interface to old pre-MIME software which was known to be 8-bit clean,
> as most of it was.
>
> The quoted-printable (QP) proposal also had its merits.  This solution
> was close to the two people who most wanted a solution, the sender and
> the recipient, rather than involving system managers of intervening
> machines who might have no interest in the problem of accented
> characters.  There was less danger of software being passed 8-bit
> data.  (Examples were found of software which actually crashed if it
> was presented with 8-bit data, although it would be amazing if there
> was any such software left seven years on.)  Many people felt that even
> if the recipient's mailer wasn't MIME capable it was better for him or
> her to see thingies like "=E1" than to risk having accented characters
> deleted or having their eighth bit stripped.
>
> So BOTH proposals were accepted.  It is legal MIME to have messages
> headed with:
>
>        Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>        Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable
>
> and it is just as legal to have messages headed with:
>
>        Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>        Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit

With care, i read the text all. That's good to know. Thanks!

Sincerely,

--- 
"Germinal, terminal, what the hell. I started to do abortions. Nice and easy,
everybody happy, like washing the dishes and leaving a clean sink. That was
my class. I loved it, I loved being an abortionist. I don't believe that a
two-month fetus is a human being so no problems there. I was helping young
girls and married woman who were in trouble, I was making good money. I was
out of the front lines. When I got caught I felt like a deserter that had been
hauled in. But I was lucky, a friend pulled some strings and got me off but
now the big hospitals won't let me operate. So here I am. Giving good advice
again which is being ignored just like in the old days."
		-- Jules Seagul, "Chapter 26", page 373

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