Re: questions re sendmail vs smtpmail.el

Re: questions re sendmail vs smtpmail.el

[Wu XiaoGuang]

On Sat, 12 Oct 2002 12:10:29 -0700, Michael Na Li wrote:

> On 12 Oct 2002, Wu XiaoGuang said:
>> 
>> On Sat, 12 Oct 2002 03:35:22 -0700, Michael Na Li wrote:
>> 
>> > I use smtp to send emails so I disabled the sendmail service on
>> my > laptop running RedHat 7.3 and every things worked as expected.
>> Now > after I've upgraded from 7.3 to 8.0.  I found my outgoing
>> emails > (sent from Gnus) simply disappeared!  I can still use
>> Mozilla Mail > to send emails however because I've configured it to
>> use smtp.
>> 
>> Are you using the newer version of smtpmail.el from:
>> http://www.josefsson.org/emacs-rfc2554.html
>> 

> I justed downloaded the cvs version of smtpmail.el (and sendmail.el
> which defines a new function mail-envelop-from) and sending emails
> via smtp seems to be working.

> I have smtpmail-debug-info set to t before but I didn't any tracing
> message before I upgrade so smtp wasn't used at all for some reason.

> By the way smtpmail.el says I need set smtpmail-default-smtp-server
> but I found that I had to set smtpmail-smtp-server instead.

Yes, when I use Emacs 21.1 in MDL 8.2, there is no need to set the
smtpmail-smtp-server, but in woody (Emacs 21.2), I have to set the
additional variable. 
I'm also curious.

> Now that I've got smtpmail working I might go back and use sendmail
> instead ;-) The question is, does sendmail have any advantage versus
> smtpmail in terms of speed?

> Michael


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Re: questions re sendmail vs smtpmail.el

[Ian Zimmerman]

Michael> Now that I've got smtpmail working I might go back and use
Michael> sendmail instead ;-) The question is, does sendmail have any
Michael> advantage versus smtpmail in terms of speed?

Clemens> you mean a complete installation of sendmail(8) isn't needed
Clemens> when using smtpmail.el?  that would be interesting for me!

Well, if you have a "smarthost" (a machine where sendmail directs all
non-local outgoing mail, as is typical for personal workstations), you
can just as well configure smtpmail to connect directly to the
smarthost.

- But: be aware that many Unix system programs use sendmail behind
your back (cron, sudo, ...) and it will be _lots_ of work to make them
do something else.

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Re: questions re sendmail vs smtpmail.el

[Kai Großjohann]

Clemens Fischer <ino@despammed.com> writes:

> you mean a complete installation of sendmail(8) isn't needed when using
> smtpmail.el?  that would be interesting for me!

You do not need sendmail at all on your local host.  Instead,
smtpmail.el directly talks to a remote SMTP server.  Usually, your
ISP provides such a server, so you don't have to worry about it.

kai
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