From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.user/15826 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ivan Shmakov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.user Subject: Re: gnu linux clients capable of virtual groups Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2012 10:35:28 +0700 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Message-ID: <86wqziydtr.fsf@gray.siamics.net> References: <61307bb7637cf46debdc0781be9cba66@dizum.com> <8f221f55d4e3caba2eed85059d071128@breaka.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1348544409 27402 80.91.229.3 (25 Sep 2012 03:40:09 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2012 03:40:09 +0000 (UTC) To: info-gnus-english@gnu.org Original-X-From: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Sep 25 05:40:14 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TGM0K-0006Wz-Bm for gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org; Tue, 25 Sep 2012 05:40:12 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59357 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TGM0E-0008SS-GH for gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org; Mon, 24 Sep 2012 23:40:06 -0400 Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!goblin2!goblin.stu.neva.ru!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: news.software.readers,gnu.emacs.gnus Original-Lines: 63 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: FtDGZaUx6k7Bzdiv4MgYAg.user.speranza.aioe.org Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2 (gnu/linux) X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:xtvdN/XNf3KbweRy0WhNnKeOWV8= Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu news.software.readers:273850 gnu.emacs.gnus:86914 X-BeenThere: info-gnus-english@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Announcements and discussions for GNUS, the GNU Emacs Usenet newsreader \(in English\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.user:15826 Archived-At: >>>>> John F Morse writes: >>>>> Anonymous wrote: [Cross-posting to news:gnu.emacs.gnus.] [...] >> I'll describe the problem, rather than the solution. When a user is >> subscribed to 100 newsgroups, it is *very* cumbersome to visit each >> newsgroup to see if there is anything interesting on a daily basis. [...] >> Those would be "virtual" newsgroups, because the user creates them >> and only the client knows about them, not the outside world. >> It's a bit of a surprise that Windows clients (which tend to cater >> for simple one-click users) have clients that can configure virtual >> newsgroups, while text-based gnu linux tools are falling short on >> the power and configurability. > That might be possible, but I'm unaware of any newsreader, Linux, Mac > or Windows that can do such a thing. Gnus (which runs on top of Emacs) can do it, and is available for all the mentioned platforms. This feature is accessed via the M-x gnus-group-make-empty-virtual and M-x gnus-group-add-to-virtual commands in the *Groups* buffer. [...] > For someone who does read a lot of articles, from many newsgroups, > this would certainly generate a lot of confusion. Sorting by date > and time would wreck any thread display with everything intermixed. Huh? [...] > One possible trouble would be replying. The newsreader would need to > know the real newsgroup so it could post back into it. Perhaps by > evaluating the disposition of the reply by using the Newsgroups: > header field. Due to the support of cross-posting in Usenet, it's not only "virtual" groups that need such a feature, as when posting a follow-up to a cross-posted article, the currently selected group won't be the only one the follow needs to go to. Furthermore, should an article be selected, e. g., by traversing References: (which Gnus allows one to do), it may happen that the current article doesn't belong to the current group at all. > Again, threading could be a nightmare without using the References: > header field. ? I don't know of any sensible way to thread, other than by relying on References:. [...] -- FSF associate member #7257