From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.user/10242 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: ross@rosslaird.info (Ross A. Laird) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.user Subject: Re: Gnus seems to not notice some emails Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 11:30:52 -0800 Message-ID: <871w7z861f.fsf@rosslaird.info> References: <87odb4ii1r.fsf@rosslaird.info> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1201721480 17651 80.91.229.12 (30 Jan 2008 19:31:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 19:31:20 +0000 (UTC) To: info-gnus-english@gnu.org Original-X-From: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jan 30 20:31:41 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JKIeg-0007A8-33 for gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org; Wed, 30 Jan 2008 20:31:30 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JKIeE-0006om-Qm for gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org; Wed, 30 Jan 2008 14:31:02 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JKIeD-0006oG-1B for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Wed, 30 Jan 2008 14:31:01 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JKIeC-0006ns-AJ for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Wed, 30 Jan 2008 14:31:00 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JKIeC-0006nl-20 for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Wed, 30 Jan 2008 14:31:00 -0500 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2] helo=ciao.gmane.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JKIeB-0007L3-H4 for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Wed, 30 Jan 2008 14:30:59 -0500 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1JKIe7-0003wP-5w for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Wed, 30 Jan 2008 19:30:55 +0000 Original-Received: from h24-207-46-42.dlt.dccnet.com ([24.207.46.42]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 30 Jan 2008 19:30:55 +0000 Original-Received: from ross by h24-207-46-42.dlt.dccnet.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 30 Jan 2008 19:30:55 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 32 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: h24-207-46-42.dlt.dccnet.com User-Agent: Gnus/5.110006 (No Gnus v0.6) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:VLCFOOnlG3cppF12SJuz4J8KA2E= X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: info-gnus-english@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Announcements and discussions for GNUS, the GNU Emacs Usenet newsreader \(in English\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.user:10242 Archived-At: I thought I'd reply to my own post since no one seems to be able to help with my particular problem. I have, in fact, narrowed it down a bit: it's the agent. Somehow this problem is related to two circumstances: IF I do not use gnus for some period of time (perhaps longer than the expiry time, but I have no idea); AND I return to using gnus later (say, a month later); THEN gnus exhibits the failure-to-notice problem. I discovered that it was not only new messages that gnus was failing to notice; it was also all messages (read and unread) that had moved through the mail account since the last time I had used gnus. So, somehow gnus is deciding to ignore everything after a certain date and ignore everything new as well -- but only when I stop using it (and this has typically been because I encountered a similar problem, or because some fancy new version of mutt or Thunderbird arrived, and I wanted to experiment). I deleted all data that seemed relevant in the agent folder and now gnus works perfectly. But it's odd, this problem. Ross -- Ross A. Laird, PhD www.rosslaird.info