Re: Mark mail/news sent by myself as read?

Re: Mark mail/news sent by myself as read?

[Nicolas KOWALSKI]

William Xu <william.xwl@gmail.com> writes:

> Hi, 

Hello,

> Is there a way to automatically marking mail/news sent by myself as
> read?  So that they don't get counted in the unread message counter.

Yes, according to this variable:

"gnus-gcc-mark-as-read's value is nil

Documentation:
If non-nil, automatically mark Gcc articles as read.
"

-- 
Nicolas

Re: Mark mail/news sent by myself as read?

[William Xu]

Nicolas KOWALSKI <niko@petole.dyndns.org> writes:

>> Is there a way to automatically marking mail/news sent by myself as
>> read?  So that they don't get counted in the unread message counter.
>
> Yes, according to this variable:
>
> "gnus-gcc-mark-as-read's value is nil
>
> Documentation:
> If non-nil, automatically mark Gcc articles as read.
> "

It is already t here.  This only works for the "Gcc:" header.  

When you mail to a mailing list or newsgroup, the mail sent back from
the list or newsgroup is still unread.  

-- 
William

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Re: Mark mail/news sent by myself as read?

[Bastien]

Nicolas KOWALSKI <niko@petole.dyndns.org> writes:

> Yes, according to this variable:
>
> "gnus-gcc-mark-as-read's value is nil

I see that this variable defaults to `nil'.  
Maybe `t' is a more sensible default choice?

-- 
Bastien

Re: Mark mail/news sent by myself as read?

[Bastien]

William Xu <william.xwl@gmail.com> writes:

>> "gnus-gcc-mark-as-read's value is nil
>>
>> Documentation:
>> If non-nil, automatically mark Gcc articles as read.
>> "
>
> It is already t here.  This only works for the "Gcc:" header.  
>
> When you mail to a mailing list or newsgroup, the mail sent back from
> the list or newsgroup is still unread.  

Which is right, since it's a new mail.  

Maybe you can just lower your own score?

-- 
Bastien

Re: Mark mail/news sent by myself as read?

[Nicolas KOWALSKI]

William Xu <william.xwl@gmail.com> writes:

> It is already t here.  This only works for the "Gcc:" header.  
>
> When you mail to a mailing list or newsgroup, the mail sent back
> from the list or newsgroup is still unread.

Well, if your mail backend is nnimap with Cyrus-imapd behind, you may
use the "imapflags" sieve extension:

http://wiki.fastmail.fm/index.php?title=SieveFAQ#Can_I_mark_messages_from_a_Sieve_script.3F

-- 
Nicolas

Re: Mark mail/news sent by myself as read?

[William Xu]

Nicolas KOWALSKI <niko@petole.dyndns.org> writes:

> Well, if your mail backend is nnimap with Cyrus-imapd behind, you may
> use the "imapflags" sieve extension:
>
> http://wiki.fastmail.fm/index.php?title=SieveFAQ#Can_I_mark_messages_from_a_Sieve_script.3F

Hmm, I have not yet tried imap.  No solutions for pop3, nntp? 

-- 
William

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Re: Mark mail/news sent by myself as read?

[Sven Joachim]

On 2008-03-03 05:13 +0100, William Xu wrote:

> Is there a way to automatically marking mail/news sent by myself as
> read?  So that they don't get counted in the unread message counter.

You can use the global score file for that.  In the group buffer, type
'W e', then insert the following (replace name and address, of course):

(("from"
  ("Your name <youraddress@your.isp>" -10000 nil e)))

Type C-c C-c, and you're done.  From now on, Gnus will skip over your
own articles in all groups.

See (Info "(gnus)Scoring") for all the g(l)ory details on scoring.

Sven

Re: Mark mail/news sent by myself as read?

[Nicolas KOWALSKI]

William Xu <william.xwl@gmail.com> writes:

> Nicolas KOWALSKI <niko@petole.dyndns.org> writes:
>
>> Well, if your mail backend is nnimap with Cyrus-imapd behind, you may
>> use the "imapflags" sieve extension:
>>
>> http://wiki.fastmail.fm/index.php?title=SieveFAQ#Can_I_mark_messages_from_a_Sieve_script.3F
>
> Hmm, I have not yet tried imap.  No solutions for pop3, nntp? 

I do not know one, sorry.

BTW, if you use directly the IMAP interface of Gmail, sent mails are
always marked as read, even when sent back by mailing-lists, so this
could be your solution.

-- 
Nicolas

Re: Mark mail/news sent by myself as read?

[Tassilo Horn]

Nicolas KOWALSKI <niko@petole.dyndns.org> writes:

Hi,

>> Is there a way to automatically marking mail/news sent by myself as
>> read?  So that they don't get counted in the unread message counter.
>
> Yes, according to this variable:
>
> "gnus-gcc-mark-as-read's value is nil
>
> Documentation:
> If non-nil, automatically mark Gcc articles as read.
> "

I've set this to t, but in *Group* the group which got an gcc'ed article
show it as new message.  But when I hit RET on that group it'll tell me
that there are no new messages.

Is there a way that they don't show up in *Group*, too?

Bye,
Tassilo
-- 
Viruses can't infect RMS's machine because there is nothing to
infect. RMS memorises all his documents. In binary. He just types
everything in whenever he needs a document.

Re: Mark mail/news sent by myself as read?

[Nicolas KOWALSKI]

Tassilo Horn <tassilo@member.fsf.org> writes:

> Nicolas KOWALSKI <niko@petole.dyndns.org> writes:
>
>>> Is there a way to automatically marking mail/news sent by myself
>>> as read? So that they don't get counted in the unread message
>>> counter.
>>
>> Yes, according to this variable:
>>
>> "gnus-gcc-mark-as-read's value is nil
>>
>> Documentation:
>> If non-nil, automatically mark Gcc articles as read.
>> "
>
> I've set this to t, but in *Group* the group which got an gcc'ed
> article show it as new message. But when I hit RET on that group
> it'll tell me that there are no new messages.

Same here.

> Is there a way that they don't show up in *Group*, too?

I did not find one.

That's why I ended up not marking Gcc'ed messages read. It is more
consistent with the *Group* view.

-- 
Nicolas

Re: Mark mail/news sent by myself as read?

[William Xu]

Sven Joachim <svenjoac@gmx.de> writes:

> On 2008-03-03 05:13 +0100, William Xu wrote:
>
>> Is there a way to automatically marking mail/news sent by myself as
>> read?  So that they don't get counted in the unread message counter.
>
> You can use the global score file for that.  In the group buffer, type
> 'W e', then insert the following (replace name and address, of course):
>
> (("from"
>   ("Your name <youraddress@your.isp>" -10000 nil e)))
>
> Type C-c C-c, and you're done.  From now on, Gnus will skip over your
> own articles in all groups.
>
> See (Info "(gnus)Scoring") for all the g(l)ory details on scoring.

Hm, it looks like i don't have that binding, and didn't find it in the
info either.  My Gnus is "Gnus v5.11".  

Which function does it invoke? 

-- 
William

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Re: Mark mail/news sent by myself as read?

[William Xu]

Tassilo Horn <tassilo@member.fsf.org> writes:

> I've set this to t, but in *Group* the group which got an gcc'ed article
> show it as new message.  But when I hit RET on that group it'll tell me
> that there are no new messages.
>
> Is there a way that they don't show up in *Group*, too?

I do not seem to have this problem.  Gcc'ed articles are not shown as
new messages.  Looks like I have no other related settings either...  

-- 
William

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Re: Mark mail/news sent by myself as read?

[William Xu]

Nicolas KOWALSKI <niko@petole.dyndns.org> writes:

> BTW, if you use directly the IMAP interface of Gmail, sent mails are
> always marked as read, even when sent back by mailing-lists, so this
> could be your solution.

Yes, gmail acts nicely at this point. 

-- 
William

http://williamxu.net9.org

Re: Mark mail/news sent by myself as read?

[Sven Joachim]

On 2008-03-03 16:25 +0100, William Xu wrote:

> Sven Joachim <svenjoac@gmx.de> writes:
>> You can use the global score file for that.  In the group buffer, type
>> 'W e', then insert the following (replace name and address, of course):
>>
>> (("from"
>>   ("Your name <youraddress@your.isp>" -10000 nil e)))
>>
>> Type C-c C-c, and you're done.  From now on, Gnus will skip over your
>> own articles in all groups.
>>
>> See (Info "(gnus)Scoring") for all the g(l)ory details on scoring.
>
> Hm, it looks like i don't have that binding, and didn't find it in the
> info either.  My Gnus is "Gnus v5.11".  

Oh yes, that command is new in No Gnus, sorry.

> Which function does it invoke? 

It's gnus-score-edit-all-score, definition follows:

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
(defun gnus-score-edit-all-score ()
  "Edit the all.SCORE file."
  (interactive)
  (find-file (gnus-score-file-name "all"))
  (gnus-score-mode)
  (setq gnus-score-edit-exit-function 'gnus-score-edit-done)
  (gnus-message
   4 (substitute-command-keys
      "\\<gnus-score-mode-map>\\[gnus-score-edit-exit] to save edits")))
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

Just a fancy way to edit ~/News/all.SCORE, it seems.

Cheers,
       Sven

Re: Mark mail/news sent by myself as read?

[Reiner Steib]

On Mon, Mar 03 2008, Tassilo Horn wrote:

> I've set this to t, but in *Group* the group which got an gcc'ed article
> show it as new message.  But when I hit RET on that group it'll tell me
> that there are no new messages.
>
> Is there a way that they don't show up in *Group*, too?

I don't see that behavior normally.  But I seem to recall that it
happens when the corresponding summary buffer is open.  Let's try...

Bye, Reiner.
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Re: Mark mail/news sent by myself as read?

[Reiner Steib]

On Mon, Mar 03 2008, Reiner Steib wrote:

> On Mon, Mar 03 2008, Tassilo Horn wrote:
>> I've set this to t, but in *Group* the group which got an gcc'ed article
>> show it as new message.  But when I hit RET on that group it'll tell me
>> that there are no new messages.
>>
>> Is there a way that they don't show up in *Group*, too?
>
> I don't see that behavior normally.  But I seem to recall that it
> happens when the corresponding summary buffer is open.  Let's try...

No.  I can't reproduce this problem.

Bye, Reiner.
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      (o o)
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Re: Mark mail/news sent by myself as read?

[William Xu]

Sven Joachim <svenjoac@gmx.de> writes:

> Oh yes, that command is new in No Gnus, sorry.

Nope.  

You mail agent tells that you are using No Gnus with 22.1.91.   So you
pulled Gnus from Gnus repo other than the one in Emacs repo? 

>> Which function does it invoke? 
>
> It's gnus-score-edit-all-score, definition follows:
>
> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
> (defun gnus-score-edit-all-score ()
>   "Edit the all.SCORE file."
>   (interactive)
>   (find-file (gnus-score-file-name "all"))
>   (gnus-score-mode)
>   (setq gnus-score-edit-exit-function 'gnus-score-edit-done)
>   (gnus-message
>    4 (substitute-command-keys
>       "\\<gnus-score-mode-map>\\[gnus-score-edit-exit] to save edits")))
> --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
>
> Just a fancy way to edit ~/News/all.SCORE, it seems.

Thanks.  I'll try how it works.  

-- 
William

http://williamxu.net9.org

Re: Mark mail/news sent by myself as read?

[Sven Joachim]

On 2008-03-04 03:25 +0100, William Xu wrote:

> You mail agent tells that you are using No Gnus with 22.1.91.   So you
> pulled Gnus from Gnus repo other than the one in Emacs repo? 

Yes.

Re: Mark mail/news sent by myself as read?

[Tassilo Horn]

Reiner Steib <reinersteib+gmane@imap.cc> writes:

Hi Reiner,

>> On Mon, Mar 03 2008, Tassilo Horn wrote:
>>> I've set this to t, but in *Group* the group which got an gcc'ed
>>> article show it as new message.  But when I hit RET on that group
>>> it'll tell me that there are no new messages.
>>>
>>> Is there a way that they don't show up in *Group*, too?
>>
>> I don't see that behavior normally.  But I seem to recall that it
>> happens when the corresponding summary buffer is open.  Let's try...
>
> No.  I can't reproduce this problem.

In my config I use gnus-parameters with extensive use of gcc-self.

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
(setq gnus-parameters
      `((,(rx "Fastmail:INBOX.mailinglists.bbdb-info")
         (to-address . "bbdb-info@lists.sourceforge.net")
         (subscribed . t)
         (gcc-self   . "nnimap+Fastmail:INBOX.Sent Items"))

        [...]

        (,(rx "Fastmail:INBOX.uni")
         (gcc-self   . t))))
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

When I enter the "uni" folder and write a mail, it will be visible in
*Group*.  When I write the mail with `C-u m' on INBOX.uni it won't show
up there.  So at least for (gcc-self . t) your remembrance is correct.

And I'm pretty sure that replies to mailing-lists (wich use gcc-self to
my "Sont Items" box) show up in *Group*, too.  Then the corresponding
mailing-list group is open, of course.

Bye,
Tassilo
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Mark mail/news sent by myself as read?

[William Xu]

Hi, 

Is there a way to automatically marking mail/news sent by myself as
read?  So that they don't get counted in the unread message counter.

-- 
William

http://williamxu.net9.org