gnus-parameters don't have an effect

gnus-parameters don't have an effect

[Tassilo Horn]

Hi,

today I started using Gnus for mail (IMAP) and merged my
`gnus-posting-styles' with `gnus-parameters'.

,----[ C-h v gnus-parameters RET ]
| gnus-parameters is a variable defined in `gnus.el'.
| Its value is shown below.
| 
| Documentation:
| Alist of group parameters.
| 
| Value:
| ((".*"
|   (posting-style
|    ("Face"
|     (lambda nil
|       (let
|           ((file
|             (th-random-file "~/.faces" "\\.jpg")))
|         (message "Chose %s as Face file." file)
|         (gnus-face-from-file file))))))
|  ("^infko\\."
|   (posting-style
|    (address "heimdall@uni-koblenz.de")))
|  ("Fastmail:INBOX\\."
|   (posting-style
|    (address "thorn@fastmail.fm"))
|   (gnus-use-scoring nil)
|   (gcc-self . t))
|  ("Fastmail:INBOX\\.FSF"
|   (posting-style
|    (address "tassilo@member.fsf.org")))
|  ("Fastmail:INBOX\\.\\(D-BARF\\|emms-patches\\)"
|   (gnus-use-scoring t)
|   (gcc-self)))
`----

The problem is, that most settings there have no effect. What works is
the adding of the Face header in every mail/posting.

But I always post with `user-mail-address', although this should be
overridden in infko-groups or on my Fastmail-IMAP-postbox. Those
`gcc-self' and `gnus-use-scoring' don't have an effect, too.

Does anyone know what's wrong here?

Bye and thanks,
Tassilo
-- 
          "Emacs is not a development tool but a way of life."
                - David Kastrup in alt.religion.emacs -

Re: gnus-parameters don't have an effect

[Tassilo Horn]

Hi all,

I switched back to separated posting styles and grous parameters.

,----[ ~/.gnus.el ]
| (setq gnus-posting-styles
|       '((".*"
|          ("Face" (lambda ()
|                     (let ((file (th-random-file "~/.faces" "\\.jpg")))
|                       (message "Chose %s as Face file." file)
|                       (gnus-face-from-file file)))))
|         ("^infko\\..*"
|          (address "heimdall@uni-koblenz.de"))
|         ("^nnimap\\+Fastmail:INBOX"
|          (address "thorn@fastmail.fm"))
|         ("^nnimap\\+Fastmail:INBOX\\.\\(emms-patches\\|FSF\\)$"
|          (address "tassilo@member.fsf.org"))))
| 
| (setq gnus-parameters
|       '(("^nnimap\\+Fastmail:INBOX"
|          (gnus-use-scoring nil)
|          (gcc-self . t))
|         ("^nnimap\\+Fastmail:INBOX\\.D-BARF$"
|          (to-address . "D-BARF@yahoogroups.de")
|          (subscribed . t)
|          (gnus-use-scoring t)
|          (gcc-self . "nnimap+Fastmail:INBOX.Sent Items"))
|         ("^nnimap\\+Fastmail:INBOX\\.emms-patches$"
|          (to-address . "emms-patches@gnu.org")
|          (subscribed . t)
|          (gnus-use-scoring t)
|          (gcc-self . "nnimap+Fastmail:INBOX.Sent Items"))))
`----

Now the posting styles work flawlessly, but there's still a problem with
the `gnus-parameters'.

What works are gnus-use-scoring, to-address, subscribed. But there's
self-gcc-ing in all my Fastmail IMAP groups, although this shouldn't be
done in the 2 mailing list groups (D-BARF and emms-patches). I also
tried (gcc-self . none) and (gcc-self . nil) without any luck. Gnus
always generates a Gcc header with the current group.

What's wrong with it?

Bye and thanks,
Tassilo

Re: gnus-parameters don't have an effect

[Slackat]

Tassilo Horn <tassilo@member.fsf.org> writes:

> Slackat <slackrat4Q@azurservers.com> writes:
> 
> >> emacs/gnus config [http://azurservers.com/gnus]
> >> 
> >> The server seems to be not reachable...
> >
> > There doesn't seem to be anything in the logs 
> 
> ,----[ with a browser ]
> | Timeout on server
> | Connection was to azurservers.com at port 80
> `----
> 
> Ping doesn't work, too. `dig' resolves azurservers.com to 82.242.110.54,
> but I cannot browse or ping that IP...
> 
> Bye,
> Tassilo
> -- 
> > Negerkuss
> Rassist! Das heisst jetzt Farbigenliebkosung.
>                      - Ulf Rund in de.talk.jokes -
> 
> 
> 
>From [http://www.dnsstuff.com/]

Pinging azurservers.com [82.242.110.54]:

Ping #1: Got reply from 82.242.110.54 in 160ms [TTL=56]
Ping #2: Got reply from 82.242.110.54 in 122ms [TTL=56]
Ping #3: Got reply from 82.242.110.54 in 123ms [TTL=56]
Ping #4: Got reply from 82.242.110.54 in 123ms [TTL=56]

__

Searching for azurservers.com A record at k.root-servers.net 
                Got referral to i.gtld-servers.net. [took 81 ms]
Searching for azurservers.com A record at i.gtld-servers.net. 
                Got referral to ns4.no-ip.com. [took 114 ms]
Searching for azurservers.com A record at ns4.no-ip.com. 
                Reports an answer.

Record is: 

Domain	Type	Class	TTL	Answer
azurservers.com.	A	IN	60	82.242.110.54
azurservers.com.	NS	IN	86400	ns3.no-ip.com.
azurservers.com.	NS	IN	86400	ns4.no-ip.com.
azurservers.com.	NS	IN	86400	ns5.no-ip.com.
azurservers.com.	NS	IN	86400	ns1.no-ip.com.
azurservers.com.	NS	IN	86400	ns2.no-ip.com.

Looking up at ns1.no-ip.com.... Reports 1 A record(s). 9ms.
Looking up at ns2.no-ip.com.... Reports 1 A record(s). 66ms.
Looking up at ns3.no-ip.com.... Reports 1 A record(s). 23ms.
Looking up at ns4.no-ip.com.... Reports 1 A record(s). 6ms.
Looking up at ns5.no-ip.com.... Reports 1 A record(s). 86ms.

Average of all 5 nameservers: 38ms (plus 195ms overhead).

Score: A+

-- 
Slackrat
AKA Bill Henderson
[No _4Q_ for direct email]
emacs/gnus config [http://azurservers.com/gnus]
X-Shakespeare: "Conscience does make cowards of us all,
               And thus the native hue of resolution
               Is sicklied o'er with the pale cast of thought."
                    -- Hamlet, III.1

Re: gnus-parameters don't have an effect

[Slackat]

Tassilo Horn <tassilo@member.fsf.org> writes:

> Slackat <slackrat4Q@azurservers.com> writes:
> 
> >> emacs/gnus config [http://azurservers.com/gnus]
> >> 
> >> The server seems to be not reachable...
> >
> > There doesn't seem to be anything in the logs 
> 
> ,----[ with a browser ]
> | Timeout on server
> | Connection was to azurservers.com at port 80
> `----
> 
> Ping doesn't work, too. `dig' resolves azurservers.com to 82.242.110.54,
> but I cannot browse or ping that IP...
> 

send me your IP address by email

Some ranges are dropped on the firewall without logging and it may
just be that you fall into one of them

In which instance I will OK you if your IP is static

Otherwise you should have no problem

-- 
Slackrat
AKA Bill Henderson
[No _4Q_ for direct email]
emacs/gnus config [http://azurservers.com/gnus]
X-Shakespeare: "What a piece of work is man! How noble in reason!
               How infinite in faculties! in form and moving, how express and admirable!
               in action how like an angel! in apprehension, how like a god!
               the beauty of the world!  the paragon of animals!"
                    -- Hamlet, II.2

Re: gnus-parameters don't have an effect

[Tassilo Horn]

Slackat <slackrat4Q@azurservers.com> writes:

>> emacs/gnus config [http://azurservers.com/gnus]
>> 
>> The server seems to be not reachable...
>
> There doesn't seem to be anything in the logs 

,----[ with a browser ]
| Timeout on server
| Connection was to azurservers.com at port 80
`----

Ping doesn't work, too. `dig' resolves azurservers.com to 82.242.110.54,
but I cannot browse or ping that IP...

Bye,
Tassilo
-- 
> Negerkuss
Rassist! Das heisst jetzt Farbigenliebkosung.
                     - Ulf Rund in de.talk.jokes -

Re: gnus-parameters don't have an effect

[Slackat]

Tassilo Horn <tassilo@member.fsf.org> writes:

> emacs/gnus config [http://azurservers.com/gnus]
> 
> The server seems to be not reachable...
> 

There doesn't seem to be anything in the logs 


-- 
Slackrat
AKA Bill Henderson
[No _4Q_ for direct email]
emacs/gnus config [http://azurservers.com/gnus]

Re: gnus-parameters don't have an effect

[Tassilo Horn]

Slackat <slackrat4Q@azurservers.com> writes:

> Look at mine [address below] The Splits and Styles work perfectly
>
> [...]
>
> Fastmail used to be quirky - I dumped it seveal years ago when they
> started using Seive and it bounced critical emails relative to my Old
> Age Pension

Ouch! But I made only positive experiences the last few years...

> emacs/gnus config [http://azurservers.com/gnus]

The server seems to be not reachable...

Regards,
Tassilo
-- 
Früher haben wir vor dem Essen immer gebetet, aber jetzt hat meine Frau
einen Kochkurs gemacht.

Re: gnus-parameters don't have an effect

[Slackat]

Tassilo Horn <tassilo@member.fsf.org> writes:

> Hi,
> 
> today I started using Gnus for mail (IMAP) and merged my
> `gnus-posting-styles' with `gnus-parameters'.
> 
> ,----[ C-h v gnus-parameters RET ]
> | gnus-parameters is a variable defined in `gnus.el'.
> | Its value is shown below.
> | 
> | Documentation:
> | Alist of group parameters.
> | 
> | Value:
> | ((".*"
> |   (posting-style
> |    ("Face"
> |     (lambda nil
> |       (let
> |           ((file
> |             (th-random-file "~/.faces" "\\.jpg")))
> |         (message "Chose %s as Face file." file)
> |         (gnus-face-from-file file))))))
> |  ("^infko\\."
> |   (posting-style
> |    (address "heimdall@uni-koblenz.de")))
> |  ("Fastmail:INBOX\\."
> |   (posting-style
> |    (address "thorn@fastmail.fm"))
> |   (gnus-use-scoring nil)
> |   (gcc-self . t))
> |  ("Fastmail:INBOX\\.FSF"
> |   (posting-style
> |    (address "tassilo@member.fsf.org")))
> |  ("Fastmail:INBOX\\.\\(D-BARF\\|emms-patches\\)"
> |   (gnus-use-scoring t)
> |   (gcc-self)))
> `----
> 
> The problem is, that most settings there have no effect. What works is
> the adding of the Face header in every mail/posting.
> 
> But I always post with `user-mail-address', although this should be
> overridden in infko-groups or on my Fastmail-IMAP-postbox. Those
> `gcc-self' and `gnus-use-scoring' don't have an effect, too.
> 
> Does anyone know what's wrong here?
> 
> Bye and thanks,
> Tassilo
> -- 
>           "Emacs is not a development tool but a way of life."
>                 - David Kastrup in alt.religion.emacs -
> 
> 
> 

Look at mine [address below] The Splits and Styles work perfectly

Basically everything is great except there is a bit of a problem with
Shakespeare.el

Fastmail used to be quirky - I dumped it seveal years ago when they
started using Seive and it bounced critical emails relative to my Old
Age Pension 

Scoring I don't do

----
X-Shakespeare: "All the world's a stage,
               And all the men and women merely players:
               They have their exits and their entrances;
               And one man in his time plays many parts"
                    -- As You Like It, II.7

-- 
Slackrat
AKA Bill Henderson
[No _4Q_ for direct email]
emacs/gnus config [http://azurservers.com/gnus]