* gnus-posting-styles
@ 2006-05-11 16:45 Hadron Quark
2006-05-11 17:36 ` gnus-posting-styles Steven E. Harris
2006-05-11 18:42 ` gnus-posting-styles Reiner Steib
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From: Hadron Quark @ 2006-05-11 16:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
If I have a posting style like this:
(".*gnus"
(name "Hadron A. Quark")(address "hadronquark@gmail.com")
)
then when I post or send a mail, the "from" line looks like this
hadronquark@gmail.com <hadron A. Quark>
if I remove the "." then the from is as it should be (minus the period
of course):
Hadron A Quark <hadronquark@gmail.com>
Could someone tell me how I can get the "." into the "name" without
posting-styles causing this strange swap?
thanks
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* Re: gnus-posting-styles
2006-05-11 16:45 gnus-posting-styles Hadron Quark
@ 2006-05-11 17:36 ` Steven E. Harris
2006-05-11 21:35 ` gnus-posting-styles Hadron Quark
2006-05-11 18:42 ` gnus-posting-styles Reiner Steib
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From: Steven E. Harris @ 2006-05-11 17:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
Hadron Quark <hadronquark@gmail.com> writes:
> Could someone tell me how I can get the "." into the "name" without
> posting-styles causing this strange swap?
Perhaps the variable `message-from-style' is involved. I know it
governs whether the name is shown as a parenthetical comment, or at
least allows one to force the syntax one way or another.
--
Steven E. Harris
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* Re: gnus-posting-styles
2006-05-11 17:36 ` gnus-posting-styles Steven E. Harris
@ 2006-05-11 21:35 ` Hadron Quark
2006-05-12 17:53 ` gnus-posting-styles Steven E. Harris
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From: Hadron Quark @ 2006-05-11 21:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
"Steven E. Harris" <seh@panix.com> writes:
> Hadron Quark <hadronquark@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> Could someone tell me how I can get the "." into the "name" without
>> posting-styles causing this strange swap?
>
> Perhaps the variable `message-from-style' is involved. I know it
> governs whether the name is shown as a parenthetical comment, or at
> least allows one to force the syntax one way or another.
>
> --
> Steven E. Harris
Possibly, but it only happens with the personality which includes the"."
in the "name" so I'm a little stuck.
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* Re: gnus-posting-styles
2006-05-11 21:35 ` gnus-posting-styles Hadron Quark
@ 2006-05-12 17:53 ` Steven E. Harris
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From: Steven E. Harris @ 2006-05-12 17:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
Hadron Quark <hadronquark@gmail.com> writes:
> Possibly, but it only happens with the personality which includes
> the"." in the "name" so I'm a little stuck.
Right. Note that I'm posting with my middle initial present, followed
by a period. I discovered this rule years ago when I started using my
middle initial.
See RFC 822 Section 6.1, ADDRESS SPECIFICATION. In particular, look
at "mailbox". A name preceding the actual address is a "phrase",
which, per Section 3.3, contains one or more "words", which are in
turn comprised either of quoted strings or "atoms". An atom can be any
"CHAR" except a "special", of which the period is one.
To use a period before an address, one must use a quoted string. The
parenthetical form is a "comment", described in Section 3.2, HEADER
FIELD DEFINITIONS.
--
Steven E. Harris
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* Re: gnus-posting-styles
2006-05-11 16:45 gnus-posting-styles Hadron Quark
2006-05-11 17:36 ` gnus-posting-styles Steven E. Harris
@ 2006-05-11 18:42 ` Reiner Steib
2006-05-11 21:28 ` gnus-posting-styles Hadron Quark
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From: Reiner Steib @ 2006-05-11 18:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
On Thu, May 11 2006, Hadron Quark wrote:
> (".*gnus"
> (name "Hadron A. Quark")(address "hadronquark@gmail.com")
[...]
> hadronquark@gmail.com <hadron A. Quark>
No, it's...
| From: hadronquark@gmail.com (Hadron A. Quark)
`(' and `)' instead of `<' and `>'.
| From: Hadron A. Quark <hadronquark@gmail.com>
... would be incorrect.
If you set `message-from-style' to 'angles, you'll get...
| From: "Hadron A. Quark" <hadronquark@gmail.com>
... which is correct, but requires quoting. Therefore, the default
uses the `parens' style in such a case.
See `<f1> v message-from-style RET'.
Bye, Reiner.
--
,,,
(o o)
---ooO-(_)-Ooo--- | PGP key available | http://rsteib.home.pages.de/
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* Re: gnus-posting-styles
2006-05-11 18:42 ` gnus-posting-styles Reiner Steib
@ 2006-05-11 21:28 ` Hadron Quark
2006-05-11 21:44 ` gnus-posting-styles Adam Sjøgren
2006-05-11 22:34 ` gnus-posting-styles Reiner Steib
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From: Hadron Quark @ 2006-05-11 21:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
Reiner Steib <reinersteib+gmane@imap.cc> writes:
> On Thu, May 11 2006, Hadron Quark wrote:
>
>> (".*gnus"
>> (name "Hadron A. Quark")(address "hadronquark@gmail.com")
> [...]
>
>> hadronquark@gmail.com <hadron A. Quark>
>
> No, it's...
>
> | From: hadronquark@gmail.com (Hadron A. Quark)
>
> `(' and `)' instead of `<' and `>'.
sorry : yes "(" etc.
>
> | From: Hadron A. Quark <hadronquark@gmail.com>
> ... would be incorrect.
>
> If you set `message-from-style' to 'angles, you'll get...
>
> | From: "Hadron A. Quark" <hadronquark@gmail.com>
>
> ... which is correct, but requires quoting. Therefore, the default
> uses the `parens' style in such a case.
> See `<f1> v message-from-style RET'.
But my point is that its ONLY if I include the "." in the "name" that it
switches to the other form.
>
> Bye, Reiner.
> --
> ,,,
> (o o)
> ---ooO-(_)-Ooo--- | PGP key available | http://rsteib.home.pages.de/
--
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* Re: gnus-posting-styles
2006-05-11 21:28 ` gnus-posting-styles Hadron Quark
@ 2006-05-11 21:44 ` Adam Sjøgren
2006-05-11 22:06 ` gnus-posting-styles Hadron Quark
2006-05-11 22:34 ` gnus-posting-styles Reiner Steib
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From: Adam Sjøgren @ 2006-05-11 21:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
On Thu, 11 May 2006 23:28:57 +0200, Hadron wrote:
> Reiner Steib <reinersteib+gmane@imap.cc> writes:
>> | From: Hadron A. Quark <hadronquark@gmail.com>
>> ... would be incorrect.
>> If you set `message-from-style' to 'angles, you'll get...
>> | From: "Hadron A. Quark" <hadronquark@gmail.com>
>> ... which is correct, but requires quoting. Therefore, the default
>> uses the `parens' style in such a case.
>> See `<f1> v message-from-style RET'.
> But my point is that its ONLY if I include the "." in the "name" that it
> switches to the other form.
Yes, because that means that the string needs to be quoted - in my
name it is the 'ø' that needs to be quoted.
Best regards,
--
"Though I have not tested it, I trust it works." Adam Sjøgren
asjo@koldfront.dk
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* Re: gnus-posting-styles
2006-05-11 21:44 ` gnus-posting-styles Adam Sjøgren
@ 2006-05-11 22:06 ` Hadron Quark
2006-05-11 22:31 ` gnus-posting-styles Adam Sjøgren
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From: Hadron Quark @ 2006-05-11 22:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
asjo@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren) writes:
> On Thu, 11 May 2006 23:28:57 +0200, Hadron wrote:
>
>> Reiner Steib <reinersteib+gmane@imap.cc> writes:
>
>>> | From: Hadron A. Quark <hadronquark@gmail.com>
>>> ... would be incorrect.
>
>>> If you set `message-from-style' to 'angles, you'll get...
>
>>> | From: "Hadron A. Quark" <hadronquark@gmail.com>
>
>>> ... which is correct, but requires quoting. Therefore, the default
>>> uses the `parens' style in such a case.
>>> See `<f1> v message-from-style RET'.
>
>> But my point is that its ONLY if I include the "." in the "name" that it
>> switches to the other form.
>
> Yes, because that means that the string needs to be quoted - in my
> name it is the 'ø' that needs to be quoted.
I see : but why does it need to be quoted? Because a period (".") is
otherwise illegal?
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* Re: gnus-posting-styles
2006-05-11 21:28 ` gnus-posting-styles Hadron Quark
2006-05-11 21:44 ` gnus-posting-styles Adam Sjøgren
@ 2006-05-11 22:34 ` Reiner Steib
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From: Reiner Steib @ 2006-05-11 22:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
On Thu, May 11 2006, Hadron Quark wrote:
> Reiner Steib <reinersteib+gmane@imap.cc> writes:
>> Therefore, the default uses the `parens' style in such a case. See
>> `<f1> v message-from-style RET'.
>
> But my point is that its ONLY if I include the "." in the "name" that it
> switches to the other form.
Yes, the dot causes the switch because «Hadron A. Quark
<hadronquark@gmail.com>» is not allowed according to the relevant
RFCs. «Hadron A Quark <hadronquark@gmail.com>» is allowed. It's a
feature, not a bug. You can customize `message-from-style' if you
prefer the angle style.
Bye, Reiner.
--
,,,
(o o)
---ooO-(_)-Ooo--- | PGP key available | http://rsteib.home.pages.de/
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* gnus-posting-styles
@ 2005-09-21 6:41 John
2005-09-21 12:35 ` gnus-posting-styles Glyn Millington
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From: John @ 2005-09-21 6:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
Hello
I am not able to understand why I can't see the gnus-posting-styles
alist despite C-h v gnus-posting-styles which puts out
,----
| gnus-posting-styles's value is nil
|
| Documentation:
| *Alist of styles to use when posting.
|
| Defined in `gnus-msg'.
`----
do I need to put (require gnus-msg) in me .emacs in-order to view and
customize this variable?
thanks
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* Re: gnus-posting-styles
2005-09-21 6:41 gnus-posting-styles John
@ 2005-09-21 12:35 ` Glyn Millington
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From: Glyn Millington @ 2005-09-21 12:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
John <falseaddress@nospam.nomore> writes:
> Hello
>
> I am not able to understand why I can't see the gnus-posting-styles
> alist despite C-h v gnus-posting-styles which puts out
>
> ,----
> | gnus-posting-styles's value is nil
> |
> | Documentation:
> | *Alist of styles to use when posting.
> |
> | Defined in `gnus-msg'.
> `----
>
> do I need to put (require gnus-msg) in me .emacs in-order to view and
> customize this variable?
No, but you do have to customise it yourself in .gnus - have you looked
at section 5.5 of the Gnus manual where there are some simple examples.
You can have some fun with these :-) Have a look at my headers for
examples .....
Good luck
Glyn
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