From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.user/18685 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eric Abrahamsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.user Subject: Re: Imap problems after yrs of use with my config. Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2017 16:39:46 -0700 Message-ID: <874lt97m7x.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> References: <87bmni9dax.fsf@local.lan> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1502754015 26956 195.159.176.226 (14 Aug 2017 23:40:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2017 23:40:15 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: info-gnus-english@gnu.org Original-X-From: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Aug 15 01:40:06 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dhOxo-0006PS-K3 for gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org; Tue, 15 Aug 2017 01:40:04 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38853 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dhOxu-0008GK-RB for gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org; Mon, 14 Aug 2017 19:40:10 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:34052) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dhOxp-0008Fs-Kt for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Aug 2017 19:40:06 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dhOxm-0005Ob-DP for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Aug 2017 19:40:05 -0400 Original-Received: from [195.159.176.226] (port=34639 helo=blaine.gmane.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dhOxm-0005O6-6w for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Aug 2017 19:40:02 -0400 Original-Received: from list by blaine.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dhOxb-0005it-Kt for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Aug 2017 01:39:51 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 52 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:uC8SwtrNXECWV6weA8gxkw/2X68= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 195.159.176.226 X-BeenThere: info-gnus-english@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Announcements and discussions for GNUS, the GNU Emacs Usenet newsreader \(in English\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "info-gnus-english" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.user:18685 Archived-At: Harry Putnam writes: > My remote imap server is imap.fastmail.com. [...] > But in the course of this I found a new policy was put in place a > while ago where to use fastmail servers, you need to get something > they call an App passwd .. I guess they geared up to handle > phones/tablets and whatever. > > So, I end up with 2 new passwds... one to access my fastmail acc and > this new policy ... app passwd for .. apparently for smtp server or > imap server. > > OK, so I got account passwd changed about a week ago, and got the `app > passwd' on friday I think. > > I've been unable to access imap.fastmail.com ever since. > > I did try with both new passwds, making sure. > > I've been in touch with fastmail via a trouble ticket but so far their > usefulness has been right up there with teats on a boar hog. > > They've told me to use the `App passwd' now. Of course I replied > letting them know it was not working and waiting now to hear back. > > So any suggestions as to what I can do to learn more about why it is > rejected? I doubt this is much to do with Gnus in particular. A quick scan of the Fastmail documentation simply says that your "real" account password will only work with Fastmail's own app/web client, so you should definitely be using the "app password" you created for Gnus. Just to make everything clean, I'd also delete the authinfo line, and give the credentials manually when Gnus prompts you. They also say not to use starttls, but it looks like nnimap will try ssl first, anyway, so that shouldn't make any difference. If you're a belt-and-suspenders kind of guy, you could try setting nnimap-stream to `ssl' in your secondary methods setting. In general, when stuff like this doesn't work out, it's usually best to drop out of Emacs/Gnus and try via the command line. Depending on your system, you can use something like gnutls-cli or openssl s_client to manually log in from the command line, and sometimes that will show you something interesting. At least it might rule out some problems. Dunno what else to say... Eric