From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.user/17901 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eric Abrahamsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.user Subject: Re: gnus INBOX housekeeping, kept (copies of) mail lying around Date: Tue, 05 Jan 2016 23:11:39 +0800 Message-ID: <874mesxdqs.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> References: <87r3hw70ee.fsf@hillenius.net> <878u446w17.fsf@hillenius.net> <874mes6uou.fsf@hillenius.net> <87mvsk5cxu.fsf@hillenius.net> <87egdw5bgj.fsf@hillenius.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1452006730 19288 80.91.229.3 (5 Jan 2016 15:12:10 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2016 15:12:10 +0000 (UTC) To: info-gnus-english@gnu.org Original-X-From: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jan 05 16:12:01 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aGTHE-0001u9-QU for gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org; Tue, 05 Jan 2016 16:12:00 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50041 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aGTHE-0006Tm-5f for gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org; Tue, 05 Jan 2016 10:12:00 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:36409) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aGTHA-0006Sr-SD for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Jan 2016 10:11:57 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aGTH7-0007Mw-KM for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Jan 2016 10:11:56 -0500 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:55596) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aGTH7-0007Mi-DW for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Jan 2016 10:11:53 -0500 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aGTH6-0001oV-95 for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Jan 2016 16:11:52 +0100 Original-Received: from 111.197.159.241 ([111.197.159.241]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 05 Jan 2016 16:11:52 +0100 Original-Received: from eric by 111.197.159.241 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 05 Jan 2016 16:11:52 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 88 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 111.197.159.241 User-Agent: Gnus/5.130014 (Ma Gnus v0.14) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:zGc2QkeKsLt4QjsSmoNXofTfBPw= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: info-gnus-english@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Announcements and discussions for GNUS, the GNU Emacs Usenet newsreader \(in English\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.user:17901 Archived-At: Gijs Hillenius writes: > On 5 Jan 2016, Gijs Hillenius wrote: > >> On 5 Jan 2016, Eric Abrahamsen wrote: >> >>> Gijs Hillenius writes: >>> >>>> On 5 Jan 2016, Eric Abrahamsen wrote: >>>> >>>>> Gijs Hillenius writes: >>>>> >>>>>> On 5 Jan 2016, Gijs Hillenius wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Doing some Gnus imap folders housekeeping this morning, I found >>>>>>> that 8000 messages (called 131940. 131941. etcetera) /hiding/ in >>>>>>> the imap's INBOX. It looks like these are all emails that I've >>>>>>> 'deleted' in Gnus, so they don't show. But for some reason >>>>>>> they're not actually deleted. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Is this a setting I messed up? I recall there used to be such a >>>>>>> feature, but I don't remember what that was called. I've been >>>>>>> searching the manual for this, so far without the result I hoped >>>>>>> to find. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I would appreciate a few hints. >>>>>> >>>>>> encouraged by the two replies... >>>>>> >>>>>> I just sent myself two emails (from a throw-away gmail account), >>>>>> and notice that these messages end up on the system twice. >>>>>> >>>>>> My nnimap-split-fancy places them in the correct nnimap mail >>>>>> group, but a "copy" (or perhaps the original) stays in the INBOX, >>>>>> hidden. >>>>>> >>>>>> Does that ring a bell, with anyone? >>>>> >>>>> Is it a Gmail address? >>>>> >>>>> Not that that immediately solves the problem, but it would be >>>>> useful information. Also, what's your Gnus version? >>>> >>>> The test email came from gmail. My server is for the vanity domain >>>> I'm currently posting with >>>> >>>> Gnus v5.13, in GNU Emacs 24.5.1 (Debian) >>>> >>>> a snippet from my server settings: >>>> >>>> (nnimap-inbox "INBOX") >>>> (nnimap-split-methods nnmail-split-fancy) >>>> (nnimap-unsplittable-articles >>>> '(%Deleted)) >>>> >>>> I wonder about that ^^^ last line, I don't actually recognise it. >>> >>> This will be the problem. The normal value of that var is (%Deleted >>> %Seen). Removing %Seen means that all messages in your Inbox will >>> continue being split every time you check for new mail, even though >>> you've already seen them, and they're already in the Inbox. >>> >>> Essentially that means that all messages are copied from the Inbox >>> back into the Inbox each time you check mail. >>> >>> I pushed a change to nnimap.el some time ago that prevents the >>> splitting process from splitting mail into the group it's already in, >>> but you probably don't have that change in your version of Gnus. >>> >>> In the meantime you can fix the problem by setting >>> `nnimap-unsplittable-articles' back to '(%Deleted %Seen). If you >>> leave unread messages in your Inbox for a while, you'll still have a >>> bit of the same problem. But the main issue will be fixed. >> >> I've added %Seen. Restarted Gnus. Should I expect new messages to now >> be "removed" from INBOX ? >> >> I'm asking because a first test from the same throw away address is >> again in the INBOX (but invisible to gnus) and in the fancy split >> folder. Should these messages not be marked expunge or something? > > > Perhaps this not throwing mail away is because of my cyrus conf, and has > nothing to do with Gnus. I'll start looking in this direction. I'm guessing, a bit, what the actual problem is. But please do let us know how things progress!